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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that a flying disc has been found and is

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game is rigged change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide would vanish

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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all right welcome Fade to Black I'm your

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host Jimmy church today is Wednesday

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January 18th

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2023. our guest tonight Steve Bassett is

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with us of uh prg we're going to be

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discussing

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oh man

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going to be discussing Washington D.C

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uaps UFOs we have the uh the 2023 ndaa

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uh to go through and discuss uh tonight

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and also of course the 2023 odni UAP UFO

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uh report that was finally released uh

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about a week and a half ago and uh well

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today's Wednesday I'm not even sure now

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it was released on a Friday was it this

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last Friday the week before uh yeah we

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had to have been the week before

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it's uh time flies we're going to be

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doing all of that tonight and before I

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go through a long and extensive bio for

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Steve we know that he is the executive

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director of the Paradigm research group

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founded back in 1996 so that means Steve

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has been doing this for a way too long

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he is seriously concerned and dedicated

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his life to formal Disclosure by our

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government and other world governments

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and in 2013 of course prg produced The

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Citizen hearing on disclosure at the

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national Press Club in Washington D.C

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his website is Paradigm

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researchgroup.org the links are

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throughout social media and over on our

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website and I would like to welcome back

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to fade to black troublemaker and our

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good friend

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Stephen Bassett Stephen

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Troublemaker yeah the trouble good

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trouble Jimmy good trouble uh you look

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great man uh the holidays are behind us

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happy New Year how you doing

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I am incredibly excited for the year

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that is coming this is going to be the

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you know I just cut you off

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um uh uh I want to bring up uh not

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extensively or anything like this but uh

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you and I had a private evening uh at my

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house uh we cooked and and drank uh to

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the wee hours in the morning talking

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about this subject and where we are

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right now and and we did it for hours

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and hours and hours but uh we had to do

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it again it's been a while let's do this

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again I I that was way too much fun yeah

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um Stephen I know the audience is gonna

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laugh normally I need like a dozen

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guests around me do keep the

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conversation going right nah not with

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not with Bassett I just take that as a

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compliment I just need one I just need

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one but but here we are right and uh

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pretty exciting times uh how do you feel

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let's let's actually start where we need

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um every year

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it's okay this is gonna be the year

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right and we do this a decade goes by

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and then another decade goes by and here

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comes another New Year's and ah this is

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going to be the year man I can feel it

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it's gonna be the year it's going to be

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the year well what do you think is is

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2023 going to be the one

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years ago and I I didn't prepare this in

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advance so I'm I'm gonna be a little

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sketchy but because it just came to me

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but years ago well before I got in to

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this work uh so we're talking about well

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before 1996 could have been in the 80s

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and and you can probably find it if you

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look look online everything's online I

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read an amazing story about the search

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for the Spanish uh gold Galleon

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h a and there was a gentleman and his

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family that had been looking for it

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right for years and years uh you know

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how that can go and uh every every year

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he would say this is the year we're

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going to find this ship right and

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tragedy happened he lost his I think uh

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his daughter and her husband when one of

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the boats sunk and all kinds of it goes

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on and by God one year they found the

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don't know what it was it's a great

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story I think this guy's probably passed

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on now but I I that is always stuck in

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um you know are you talking about

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um uh Mel Fisher yes absolutely yeah

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yeah that's a great story I don't know I

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think they've done a dock on it they

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should do a narrative film on that puppy

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uh what an amazing Story look the nature

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of activism is fundamentally persistence

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it always has been why uh and now I'm

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not saying that he was an activist he

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wasn't but he was searching for

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something special something important

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activists are are in roughly the same

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way is that you are up against Authority

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you're up against the powers of the

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state uh you're up against peer pressure

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and so forth and so it's not going to be

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easy it's always going to be tough right

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by the very nature of activism and so

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all the first thing you have to have is

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persistence

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uh you you think gee it would be right

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and just if the government were to do

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this and the government says screw you

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what are you doing next and so if you

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look if you look to this movement

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they take depending upon how important

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the issue is they take longer and longer

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they go through harder and harder times

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but they are all marked by a Relentless

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persistence and they always Prevail with

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few exceptions and that is where the

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phrase The Arc of the immoral universe

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is long but tends toward Justice it is

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long and unless you're prepared to run

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that long race you need to find

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something else I made the decision 26

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years in

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uh but there were people that got into

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this issue even from the standpoint of

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disclosure 55 years ago sure so I I'm

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not complaining uh but is this the year

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never seen anything like it in my 26

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years and anything that's happened

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before that in general nothing compares

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to what we're seeing right now

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the

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have invested and it it seems

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you know it's almost like a a Dreamscape

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and and then you turn around and you

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look at others around us like you're

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saying right and and and those that came

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before us because we're riding on the

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backs of giants right and you know going

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back to Kehoe you know I mean if you

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really want to think about some guys

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that were on a mission and talk about an

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activist and and going up against the

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government uh there were plenty of those

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in in the 50s and 60s and nycap and and

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the things that were going on but

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then I just look at myself

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I've been looking at this issue I'm 60.

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I've been doing it since I was eight

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Library looking up UFO in in the

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encyclopedia and and doing that what

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prompted you at eight years old to look

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up UFO in the encyclopedia my my next

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door neighbor and best friend John

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dubrava everybody leave John alone uh

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this was in Chicago I should have said

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his last name and

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um but we were into astronauts and and

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everything else and then you know I had

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my mom who was into this too as well but

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but that's we would sit around in in

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fourth grade

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drawing Rockets Apollo whatever UFOs

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moon bases and you had uh in 72

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um you and I are the same age so if you

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I wish that were true man I wish it were

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true you are a kid yeah you were a kid

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you're a child

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I'm older than dirt it's ridiculous you

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got me by six months but here's my 16

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years if you go back to 70 71 72 yeah

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and and think about 69 when you had we

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think it's amazing today but back then

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you had lost in space you had a Star

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Trek uh uh of course you know things

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like the Twilight Zone but um you had

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the TV series UFO which still to this

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day is is one of the did you know

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strangest was on that show for an

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episode I mean yeah it was it was

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bringing in UFO researcher from the

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United States and and so he flies over

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to England uh and goes to Shadow you

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know the you know the the offices under

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the the the the movie studio and starts

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talking about the UFO issue but anyway

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uh uh space 1999 you know you had all

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these things and UFOs and ET in contact

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were just a a part of me from a very

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young age and so here I I am at 60 still

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chasing it man along with you but I

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agree let me let me segue from that

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because I think I'd like to make an

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activist movements the people that were

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involved early on they get forgotten

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very few people know many about many of

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the activists that really started the

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Civil Rights movement after the Civil

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it's 18 like 70 75. uh but there were

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people trying to advance the the cause

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of justice for people of color all the

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way back 1870s 80s 90s and they just

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kind of disappear

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and then as you get closer to the

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success you know where you get the prize

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the activist prize in this case it was a

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Civil Rights Act there's actually a

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documentary called I in the prize which

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is all about it's a series fantastic I

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won awards the people that are involved

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at the end the ones that are remembered

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and and uh they're they're held up and

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so forth we get that okay

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um well this is true in this issue as

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well it is so what's different about

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this issue is that the the the efforts

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of the early activists in the Civil

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Rights Movement nobody denied nobody was

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denying that there wasn't uh Injustice

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toward people of color or their what

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segregation laws or whatever nobody

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denied that nobody denied there was an

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issue in this issue in this on our area

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the people that were involved in trying

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to move this forward were doing it in a

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a a in an arena where the government was

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saying there's nothing there there's

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nothing what are you why are you doing

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this why are you putting your there's

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there's nothing there

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think how odd that is how strange it is

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and so all of these people for for even

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basically to today but let's just go

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from 40 40 uh uh uh seven to about uh

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even 1990. they're they're pushing this

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rock up the hill and the government just

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flicks it down they push it up and

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government fix it down and the academics

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and the journalists and so many others

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I've pretty much gone along with the

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truth embargo there's really no there

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there and we feel so sorry that you're

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wasting your life now can you imagine

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how easy it's going to be

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for those people to be forgotten all

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right meaning yeah hey look it turns out

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that uh that uh ETS are here

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uh but you believed it before it was

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acceptable so you're crazy you're right

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but you're crazy uh-uh so this is a

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special situation in terms of the

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history of activism

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and that brings me to something I want

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to mention tonight and that is this

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I have been involved in developing a

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project for over a year it's been hell

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you know it's called development hell uh

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and that's not unusual because this

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project is based in Los Angeles uh kind

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of in the uh film world where

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development hell is taught in film

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school and if you don't learn it well

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you suffer

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uh and we're going to be announcing the

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particulars in about three weeks or so

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uh so I'm limited what I can say

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but the project has a couple of has has

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several components to its mission

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statement

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one of them is to start informing the

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world about this issue in a in a way

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that is going to help people understand

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it and deal with it as it finally

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matures to what we'll call disclosure

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but one another part of the mission

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statement is that we're going to really

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work very hard to make sure that all of

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the people that have carried the water

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in this issue going all the way back to

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45 47 are not forgotten they are uh uh

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brought forward presented in in a very

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high production values uh and in quality

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ways so that their work is not going to

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be forgotten because they were trying to

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do something when the government said

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there's nothing there and so this has

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become kind of a mission and a passion

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uh I've been very fortunate that I have

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hooked up with some rather Extraordinary

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People in the film industry so you're

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seeing a little glimpse of that behind

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me this is a studio that I'm going to be

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working out of uh but there's much more

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to come and I'll be talking about that

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in about three weeks so it's it's and

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it's always been a thing of mine that as

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as someone who is an activist and is

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admired activist through my life that

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you you look at the major activist

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movements and you look at some of the

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key people and how they were held up uh

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in in high esteem uh by those that

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supported the issue and you know the

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issues I'm talking about uh but then

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when you look at this issue no no it's

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it's not like oh gee I know what you

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want but it it it's wrong it's like you

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have nothing what are you doing this is

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so strange the truth embargo is one of

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the strangest things any government any

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Empire any any uh Society I think has

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ever done authorities ever done 75 years

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of there's nothing there when in fact

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it's everywhere and so it's a very odd

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situation but thanks to the power of uh

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the internet the power of social media

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and of course the power of film and Film

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Production that that can be rectified

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and so that's something thing to look

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forward to and I'm thrilled about having

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the opportunity to participate in it

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um when we uh the foundations that

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you're talking about and I had uh uh

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last night on the show I had Ryan Graves

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um on the show and one of the things one

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of the words that was mentioned so much

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last night was Foundation because

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there's foundations to all of this and

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it's now uh referenced in the 2023 ndaa

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and not in the way that you would

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normally think

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but um I've been very vocal about this

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and others out there either have let

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this slip by or they're they just didn't

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see it

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um and and they're not paying attention

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to but it's this it's the very

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Foundation written into law in the 2023

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ndaa is that the odni and the dod must

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work together and investigate all

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military UFO reports going back to

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January 1st 1945 and that report is due

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by law in June of 2024. now it's right

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there it's in the ndaa and one of the

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things not that's the foundation right

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that's the that's exactly what you're

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talking about right the truth embargo

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that's been going on well suddenly if

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nothing was going on why is it written

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into law that that you need to go back

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and look at your own stuff going back to

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January 1st 1945 which is also a curious

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date by the way it's now I'm going to

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talk about that I'm going to talk about

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that it's very cool look Jimmy I what

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I'm going to do tonight and I have it

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all up on my computer here so I'm going

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to be reading some stuff forgive me but

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it's it's got It's not this language is

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so tricky you know when you're talking

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about uh bills and things but I'm going

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to go through parts of some of the

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things that have come out recently the

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ndaa the uh the uh report Arrow report

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and so forth but I'm gonna pick out

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certain things that highlight uh that

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intrigue me in other words I'm going to

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look at it Through The Eyes of an of an

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activist right what is an act of the sea

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when they when they read this stuff

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because that prism you you see things

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that others just don't see right and you

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have if you have enough knowledge about

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the history and you're you're in that

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active assignment of mine some things

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just jump out at you and go whoa so I'm

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gonna I'm going to do that for you

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tonight we're going to go through a

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number of things but I want to preface

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it with this and I have been

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repeating this in in an interview after

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interview and I'm only getting started

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uh in fact I just wrote an op-ed

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recently which was published in The

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Liberation times Chris Sharp's fantastic

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new publication Chris also is a writer

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uh for the mirror I'm hoping that a

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couple of other papers will pick it up

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we'll see but it was published uh I

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don't know about uh maybe I forget what

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date it was 10 12 days ago and it's

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called um

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uh the UAP a political activist

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perspective now there is a fundamental

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point to this op-ed which is reflected

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in the very last two paragraphs and and

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what what it's about is this that

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disclosure was not going to happen right

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after Roswell they got it under control

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pretty quickly it was early they were

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safe they got five years of grace period

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there was a lot of activity in the skies

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but the government was okay until the

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major events of July 1952. the overfly

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of Washington DC which really got their

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attention they realized oh my God we

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just can't finesse this what are we

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going to do these these things

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apparently don't want to go along with

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our position on this they can go

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wherever they want and so at that point

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they had a decision to make

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it would have been perfectly reasonable

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if Truman had made the decision look uh

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that was pretty amazing event that just

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happened over D.C let's let's get the

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Congress involved let's start holding

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some hearings on this let's do some

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investigations so let's get let's get

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some information to the people in other

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words let's end

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let's don't start a truth embargo let's

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let's actually get it out right now 52.

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that was their best choice they went

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another way

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they held a panel called the Robertson

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panel it was run by the CIA they did

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their study and they came up with the

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conclusion that well this thing is not

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really a threat to us but the Public's

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growing an interest in it is a threat

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and they made the faithful decision

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rather than start the process of

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bringing the Congress in getting studies

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public facing activity we're going to

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embargo it we're actually going to say

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no there's nothing here we're not going

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to help it along we're going to push

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back in any way we can and somehow we're

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going to manage the Public's interest in

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this subject in spite of the fact the

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phenomena does whatever it wants

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whenever it wants and thus the formal

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truth embargo began in 1952. okay okay

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so this is where I'm going to jump in

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for a little historical perspective when

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we look at uh 1947 to 1952 1953 54. that

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period

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there was nothing in the everything Jets

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jet engine brand new technology and so

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uh the app what was Blazing speed to the

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military back then was 400 miles an hour

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450. and they are picking up on their

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radar and tracking things going 1800 2

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500 miles an hour even faster than that

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their track and they know

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nothing on this planet period can do

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that and it was obvious to a number of

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civilians that of course right right 10

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different times Jimmy different time no

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no social media no internet just local

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papers couple of major papers three

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television networks relatively fledgling

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the the the it was post World War II our

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government our military was at high

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esteem and so the idea it's hard to to

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to put ourselves back there we're

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thinking from the modern time presentism

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but the fact is

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the fact that the government was willing

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to say look no uh this is not an issue

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it's not a threat whatever and don't

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worry about it people went okay they

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just did even though it was kind of

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obvious however as you point because it

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was so obvious wait a minute a number of

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people said uh-uh right and they jumped

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in to deal with what to the to them was

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clearly non-human Tech

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well as you can imagine

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they had a rough road going forward and

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so it's taken 75 years to go from the

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obvious

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conclusion

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to the the a final finally a public face

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and engagement that will allow them to

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tell us what was obvious 75 years ago

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which brings me to the point of this

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op-ed okay and this is something that I

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hope people will listen to carefully

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because it will be helpful to you

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and this is how I finish

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the appropriate and public-facing

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actions now underway

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should have taken place 70 years ago

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1952-53 at that time those were the need

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to know and others within the dod CIA

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Congress and the media were aware UAP

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were real

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and controlled or piloted by non-human

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entities and that remains the case in

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2022. why was the government aware they

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had a vehicle at least one and bodies

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and they weren't human that's about as

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aware as you can get that's right so is

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this awkward because they knew then

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right yeah it is kind of awkward

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but is it necessary that they go through

546
00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:55,200
this public-facing process and all these

547
00:23:59,390 --> 00:23:56,580
good things we're saying that could have

548
00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:59,400
been done 70 years ago yes it is the

549
00:24:04,490 --> 00:24:02,400
legislation the dod cross-agency working

550
00:24:06,049 --> 00:24:04,500
group which we'll talk about statements

551
00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:06,059
by Congressional members and former

552
00:24:09,529 --> 00:24:07,980
National Security Executives and the

553
00:24:14,810 --> 00:24:09,539
public Congressional hearing certainly

554
00:24:17,149 --> 00:24:14,820
to come is a process not to finally get

555
00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:17,159
to the bottom of this issue but rather

556
00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:19,140
to correct the record

557
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:21,299
that we got to the bottom of this issue

558
00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:24,720
75 years ago at least the key issue

559
00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:26,760
in a responsible and minimally

560
00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:28,500
disruptive manner

561
00:24:32,750 --> 00:24:30,179
in other words they're doing the right

562
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,760
thing late but they're doing it because

563
00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:35,039
that's the best way to wrap this up and

564
00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:37,260
I finish with this it is a public

565
00:24:43,789 --> 00:24:40,440
relations driven extrication process to

566
00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:43,799
reduce blowback over the 75-year truth

567
00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:46,500
embargo while building a platform on

568
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:49,080
which the president can stand to confirm

569
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:50,760
the Extraterrestrial presence to the

570
00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:53,760
American people disclosure now when I

571
00:24:57,710 --> 00:24:55,260
read that

572
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:57,720
um uh the first time through I thought

573
00:25:03,409 --> 00:25:00,720
this is a point not only that we need

574
00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:03,419
distress but I think we're all thinking

575
00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:05,580
about it right yeah nobody's raising it

576
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,280
I think I'm the only person raising it

577
00:25:13,370 --> 00:25:10,080
in the media we're not talking about it

578
00:25:16,610 --> 00:25:13,380
enough and uh it I was like right on

579
00:25:17,649 --> 00:25:16,620
Steve and the and and here's my point

580
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:17,659
with that

581
00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:21,360
every time uh this issue was sort of

582
00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:24,299
talked about it it gets a little bit

583
00:25:30,289 --> 00:25:28,260
scary it it it's scary in this regard we

584
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,299
want disclosure right we want this we

585
00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:32,159
you know we want the president to come

586
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,140
up and go okay we're not alone man and

587
00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:36,480
check this out we've known for a while

588
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,020
well at that point what you're talking

589
00:25:45,649 --> 00:25:43,200
about that they are now in uh putting

590
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:45,659
themselves in a in an impossible

591
00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:48,720
position so how do we because there's

592
00:25:53,390 --> 00:25:50,820
too many questions after there's legal

593
00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:53,400
ramifications that not impossible tough

594
00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:55,860
it's a tough tough situation yeah right

595
00:26:00,110 --> 00:25:58,140
so they're gonna avoid that right

596
00:26:02,029 --> 00:26:00,120
there's got to be advisors sitting

597
00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:02,039
around going okay no we can't do it for

598
00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:04,200
these reasons and it's enough to scare

599
00:26:09,049 --> 00:26:07,140
everybody right but what has happened

600
00:26:11,149 --> 00:26:09,059
Jimmy is they finally enough people

601
00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:11,159
inside have finally come to the the

602
00:26:16,970 --> 00:26:13,860
personal understanding conclusion that

603
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,980
we can do it we have to do it right in

604
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:17,840
other words

605
00:26:24,169 --> 00:26:22,559
uh they had an opportunity back in 53

606
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:24,179
to get this done

607
00:26:28,610 --> 00:26:26,820
uh I'm not going to say 47. it could

608
00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:28,620
have happened in 47 if the president had

609
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:29,940
been a little slow in getting in touch

610
00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:31,620
with Roger Ramey but but it didn't

611
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,960
happen Okay but 53 they clearly had an

612
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:35,279
opportunity the damn things were flying

613
00:26:39,649 --> 00:26:36,960
all over Washington D.C they were seen

614
00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:39,659
for like over 13 days but they didn't do

615
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:40,380
it

616
00:26:47,470 --> 00:26:45,120
war nuclear weapons Soviet Threat all

617
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,480
that kind of stuff and many other things

618
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:50,400
now when they when they initiated the

619
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,520
truth embargo formerly in 53 I don't

620
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,960
think they thought that we'd still be

621
00:26:58,130 --> 00:26:57,120
under embargo this many years later I

622
00:26:59,570 --> 00:26:58,140
think they probably thought look we're

623
00:27:01,850 --> 00:26:59,580
going to do this for a while things will

624
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:01,860
settle down and we can we can get this

625
00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:04,159
forward but because it's stretched up

626
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:07,980
the problem changed back in 53 there was

627
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,840
concerns that well you know if we get

628
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:12,240
this out the people may not be able to

629
00:27:15,169 --> 00:27:13,740
handle it very well it's pretty uh

630
00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:15,179
pretty amazing pretty startling

631
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:17,820
upsetting you know and maybe people get

632
00:27:23,470 --> 00:27:21,480
upset 70 73 years later the problem is

633
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:23,480
not the people it's the government

634
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:26,159
they're unable to get it done is the

635
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,600
government's going to get upset we're

636
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,279
going to be under barrage of terrible

637
00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:30,960
questions public relations problem it's

638
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,940
going to be a nightmare lawsuits you

639
00:27:37,250 --> 00:27:34,320
know all kinds of stuff it's it's

640
00:27:40,669 --> 00:27:37,260
flipped but the fact is it's not going

641
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:40,679
to be that way it's not all right I I

642
00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:41,700
don't think it's going to be that way

643
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:46,140
and and we the issue uh the way that it

644
00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:48,240
is played out the way that you presented

645
00:27:54,649 --> 00:27:50,760
it there which is the way it's played

646
00:27:57,549 --> 00:27:54,659
out is that there was a hysteria in 1952

647
00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:00,470
well you know and all my headlines and

648
00:28:05,149 --> 00:28:02,820
and things were and so and coming right

649
00:28:07,549 --> 00:28:05,159
off of World War II and nuclear bombs

650
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:07,559
and suddenly you're gonna throw this out

651
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:09,480
there on the world well okay I could

652
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,480
understand a concern about freaking out

653
00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:14,880
the citizens of the United States in the

654
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:18,900
world I dig that but we've had this

655
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:21,600
exposure now for 75 years and not to

656
00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:24,480
mentioned 500 uh fine films made in the

657
00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:26,820
film industry with EPS in them yes yes

658
00:28:32,769 --> 00:28:29,580
yes yeah so no the world's not going to

659
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:32,779
freak out in fact they're expecting this

660
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:35,700
it's anticlimactic right they're

661
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,559
irritated because it's taking so long

662
00:28:43,610 --> 00:28:40,080
mom are We There Yet dad are we there

663
00:28:46,130 --> 00:28:43,620
yet so it's it's it's a very kind of no

664
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:46,140
no activist movement nothing in like

665
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:47,520
this in history I think has ever

666
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:50,100
happened in other words

667
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:52,260
they at some point they've got to end

668
00:28:56,810 --> 00:28:55,140
this policy of embargo where they

669
00:28:58,010 --> 00:28:56,820
suddenly where they're going to go

670
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:58,020
through a process in which they're going

671
00:29:01,970 --> 00:28:59,700
to say effectively

672
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:01,980
that thing that we told you didn't exist

673
00:29:08,269 --> 00:29:05,760
75 years ago it does exist and actually

674
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,279
knew it about it 75 years ago and for

675
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:09,600
various reasons

676
00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:11,640
we didn't tell you now we're telling you

677
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:14,220
okay now this is tough very very tough

678
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,799
because it's not just any issue it has

679
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,960
implications across a huge spectrum of

680
00:29:23,090 --> 00:29:21,120
of human endeavor and so forth and so

681
00:29:24,110 --> 00:29:23,100
forth so okay it's a big deal which is

682
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:24,120
why

683
00:29:27,889 --> 00:29:26,460
the way to do it even though it's a

684
00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:27,899
little awkward and this is what I'm

685
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:28,919
getting at

686
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:32,159
is that okay let's do what we should

687
00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:34,740
have done in 1953 let's do all of the

688
00:29:41,090 --> 00:29:37,740
right things set up working group put

689
00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:41,100
down legislation ask what to do uh uh

690
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,140
start having talked talking to Witnesses

691
00:29:49,090 --> 00:29:45,840
and what have you uh taking the issue

692
00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:49,100
seriously and moving in a a reasonably

693
00:29:54,649 --> 00:29:52,980
fast-paced towards uh a situation almost

694
00:29:56,450 --> 00:29:54,659
certainly based upon hearing testimony

695
00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:56,460
extraordinary healing testimony where

696
00:30:01,850 --> 00:29:58,740
the president can finally say look the

697
00:30:04,370 --> 00:30:01,860
evidence is pretty clear uh uh this is

698
00:30:05,690 --> 00:30:04,380
confirmed it's it's non-human Tech and

699
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:05,700
uh we're going to be getting information

700
00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:07,919
about that in much greater depth to you

701
00:30:13,549 --> 00:30:10,200
soon then when the questions start

702
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:13,559
pouring in they'll be drowned out

703
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,080
by the huge number of people that don't

704
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:18,000
care about what happened in 53

705
00:30:21,409 --> 00:30:19,440
particularly the Millennials they don't

706
00:30:23,870 --> 00:30:21,419
even know what happened in 53. they care

707
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:23,880
about the fact that they they are they

708
00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:25,200
just learned that we're not alone in the

709
00:30:29,389 --> 00:30:28,200
universe tell us more thank you my

710
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:29,399
government

711
00:30:34,669 --> 00:30:32,100
this is the way it has to happen now why

712
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:34,679
am I making a big deal out of this two

713
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:36,240
reasons one

714
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:38,580
as you read through the laws and you

715
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,020
watch the press and you see these

716
00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:42,480
announcements from various people

717
00:30:48,529 --> 00:30:44,700
if you can keep in your back of the mind

718
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,539
that back of your mind this truth that

719
00:30:53,870 --> 00:30:50,640
they've all they've known they've known

720
00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:53,880
for 75 years those that have had a need

721
00:30:58,610 --> 00:30:56,460
to know knew those that were tipped off

722
00:31:00,289 --> 00:30:58,620
knew those that figured it out on their

723
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:00,299
own because they read some decent books

724
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,260
and Watson docs new so they have already

725
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:07,200
they're already known they are new and

726
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:09,360
so when you look at this stuff with that

727
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:11,460
in mind it starts to make more sense

728
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,399
it's less upsetting it's less irritating

729
00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:16,980
all right you see the way they go about

730
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:19,380
it is to serve this what I call

731
00:31:24,529 --> 00:31:22,140
extrication process where you can't go

732
00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:24,539
too far but you also don't want to

733
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:26,700
debunk you want to move forward you

734
00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:28,679
don't want to create problems you stay

735
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,600
within certain Lanes as long as you keep

736
00:31:34,130 --> 00:31:32,159
moving forward toward disclosure

737
00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:34,140
everybody wins okay

738
00:31:37,549 --> 00:31:35,820
and so with that in mind if you don't

739
00:31:39,409 --> 00:31:37,559
mind I'm going to kind of jump into some

740
00:31:42,529 --> 00:31:39,419
of the stuff we've seen what was your

741
00:31:45,490 --> 00:31:42,539
point too the second way it would happen

742
00:31:50,409 --> 00:31:45,500
uh let me think now okay

743
00:31:53,049 --> 00:31:50,419
I'm not sure okay yeah I lost it

744
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:53,059
wasn't a point too

745
00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:56,580
vodka man we're not even doing uh but I

746
00:32:01,549 --> 00:31:58,440
do have the special stuff here uh

747
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:01,559
waiting uh for you Steve okay so uh but

748
00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:05,039
let me jump in that part

749
00:32:10,669 --> 00:32:08,700
uh and and and it's exposure at that

750
00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:10,679
point it's not necessarily disclosure

751
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,020
right it's it's exposure but

752
00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:15,360
that's that side of it

753
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:18,120
that's we've known for 75 years there's

754
00:32:22,370 --> 00:32:19,620
a whole desert that's the military

755
00:32:27,529 --> 00:32:22,380
that's the government that's that's

756
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:27,539
the other part about uh saucer sitting

757
00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:30,480
out here in Palmdale at Lockheed a

758
00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:32,820
flying saucer that the government

759
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:35,340
doesn't know about that special access

760
00:32:40,090 --> 00:32:37,500
programs that they they they're

761
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:40,100
concerned you know the ndaa doesn't have

762
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,620
any nouns or verbs in their uh

763
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:46,080
concerning backwards engineering

764
00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:49,919
spacecraft that that's not in there and

765
00:32:55,370 --> 00:32:52,860
the politicians that are dealing with

766
00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:55,380
this in the Beltway are not aware of

767
00:33:01,130 --> 00:32:58,740
this either if that gets exposed now

768
00:33:03,950 --> 00:33:01,140
we've got a real issue it's not about

769
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:03,960
they've known or made contact or have

770
00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:07,919
observed or that but if it if it if that

771
00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:10,620
becomes a reality now we've got a

772
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,840
problem well it will but again the

773
00:33:17,149 --> 00:33:14,880
question is you want it to become a

774
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,159
reality in a way that is responsible and

775
00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:19,200
not destructive there's really two

776
00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:21,480
things one one is fairly tight one is

777
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:24,659
huge that we're dealing with one is the

778
00:33:30,909 --> 00:33:28,080
core Point hold on keep those two points

779
00:33:33,649 --> 00:33:30,919
okay let me ask you this though

780
00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:33,659
in this exposure

781
00:33:40,669 --> 00:33:37,500
would you expect the government to also

782
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:40,679
say that we have a craft we actually

783
00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:43,519
have a craft we think it can fly okay

784
00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:45,299
this is the point I'm trying to make

785
00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:47,460
there's two things here the one thing

786
00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:50,940
which is fundamental to the activism is

787
00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:53,820
does the government know we have a

788
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:56,279
non-human presence high technology in

789
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:57,840
our world almost certainly from off

790
00:34:00,769 --> 00:33:59,519
planet does the government know that

791
00:34:04,190 --> 00:34:00,779
just that

792
00:34:06,049 --> 00:34:04,200
they do and they have for since 70 47

793
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:06,059
minimum probably even slightly before

794
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,460
that now that's that's one thing but you

795
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:09,839
see how important it is I mean that's

796
00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:12,720
critical just knowing that is incredibly

797
00:34:18,409 --> 00:34:15,419
significant and disclosure as I Define

798
00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:18,419
it capital D the event is just about

799
00:34:23,810 --> 00:34:21,960
confirming the Central Point yes there

800
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:23,820
are extraterrestrials that's all that it

801
00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:26,879
is now the other thing is this huge

802
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:29,700
thing which encompasses everything we

803
00:34:33,889 --> 00:34:31,800
have learned since then and the

804
00:34:35,930 --> 00:34:33,899
accumulation of information within the

805
00:34:37,010 --> 00:34:35,940
government and the private sector and

806
00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:37,020
all of the possibilities and

807
00:34:43,310 --> 00:34:40,020
speculations all of that of course

808
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,320
we want to get to but in order to get to

809
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:45,599
it it's clear we need to go through that

810
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,820
First Fundamental stage you must get the

811
00:34:52,609 --> 00:34:49,440
government to acknowledge the presence

812
00:34:54,829 --> 00:34:52,619
once you have the disclosure event then

813
00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:54,839
all of this other stuff now can

814
00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:58,440
legitimately come into play not not

815
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:01,800
haphazardly not ridiculous in a uh an

816
00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:05,520
absurd way but in other words disclosure

817
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,460
gives reasonable license to every aspect

818
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:11,040
of every government to start bringing

819
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:12,960
information to the public in other words

820
00:35:18,109 --> 00:35:15,839
the the Embargo is over now we're going

821
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:18,119
to start telling you the rest but

822
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:19,440
responsibly it doesn't mean we're just

823
00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,640
going to dump it out on the White House

824
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,500
law and let you go through the boxes no

825
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,240
but people are going to start getting

826
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,880
information and and and and they're

827
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,800
going to start learning the rest of the

828
00:35:32,569 --> 00:35:30,960
story will there be a point where

829
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:32,579
they'll stop and say look there's a more

830
00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:35,460
to this but that's classified we'll see

831
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:37,320
and what people need to understand a lot

832
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,180
of people say no we want that whole big

833
00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:41,280
thing first give us all the information

834
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,700
we want it now we don't need disclosure

835
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:47,040
wrong uh you're not going to get that

836
00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:48,780
big information until you get that

837
00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:50,940
formal confirmation everything that's

838
00:35:56,089 --> 00:35:53,940
going on right now is not so much about

839
00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:56,099
getting all that big information out

840
00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:58,200
right and and if you read through this

841
00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:01,619
stuff you realize no no it's about the

842
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,720
basic processes that you would go

843
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:05,520
through in order to establish the

844
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:08,400
fundamental premise are we alone is this

845
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,760
non-human attack yes that's what this is

846
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:13,440
about and the thing that makes it a

847
00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:16,079
little crazy is they already know and so

848
00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:17,820
if they already know why go through this

849
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,500
because when you're dealing with

850
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,119
something of this magnitude with the

851
00:36:25,730 --> 00:36:23,520
implications that it has involving the

852
00:36:27,710 --> 00:36:25,740
Congress and the dod setting up the uh

853
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:27,720
the study setting up the information

854
00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:30,060
exchanges all of that

855
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:32,820
isn't you need to do that right

856
00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:35,220
whether you knew or didn't know so

857
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:37,020
they're doing the right thing now now

858
00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:38,760
one question at one point that gets

859
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:40,260
brought up to me well then they're just

860
00:36:43,609 --> 00:36:42,300
throwing money down the drain I mean

861
00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:43,619
they already know so they're setting up

862
00:36:46,849 --> 00:36:45,240
all this stuff we're studying this gonna

863
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:46,859
get the reports look at this look at

864
00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:48,660
that it's just it just all this

865
00:36:52,990 --> 00:36:50,820
infrastructure is going to be wasted no

866
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:53,000
it's not you want to know why because

867
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,920
once the president ends the truth in

868
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:58,079
Virgo by by giving us disclosure capital

869
00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:59,520
D

870
00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:01,500
all of this infrastructure is going to

871
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:03,060
be needed more than ever

872
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:04,980
now you've got the whole world coming to

873
00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:06,720
the government say what do you got

874
00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:07,940
what's going on

875
00:37:11,870 --> 00:37:10,440
get into this get into that we want more

876
00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:11,880
reports we want this and they said no

877
00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:13,380
problem we're set up we're set up we got

878
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:14,940
a massive cross-agency working group

879
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:17,160
here and now we're Unleashed in other

880
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:18,720
words we're untethered you might say

881
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:20,400
we're going to start really being able

882
00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:22,079
to get stuff to you and so they're just

883
00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:24,180
going to repurpose it right they're

884
00:37:28,430 --> 00:37:25,820
going to repurpose it for the

885
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,440
post-disclosure world now some people

886
00:37:32,569 --> 00:37:30,480
are thinking this kid is crazy but look

887
00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:32,579
I'm telling you I've been at this a long

888
00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:35,160
time and I know enough to know that the

889
00:37:39,890 --> 00:37:38,220
idea that this is all this is happening

890
00:37:41,930 --> 00:37:39,900
because the U.S government suddenly

891
00:37:43,730 --> 00:37:41,940
realized oh my goodness there's this

892
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,740
phenomena we don't understand it's a

893
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:45,599
Potential Threat we should probably set

894
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:47,579
up a working group we should hold

895
00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:51,000
hearings give me a break no way that's

896
00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:52,380
not what's happening what's happening is

897
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,180
what do we have to do to get the

898
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:56,640
disclosure in a responsible way so that

899
00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:59,040
the public relations impact is not too

900
00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:01,020
awful and that people will be forgiving

901
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:03,420
and understanding so that we can then

902
00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:05,400
then move on to the really interesting

903
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:07,500
stuff that's what's going on and I'm

904
00:38:12,770 --> 00:38:09,960
going to keep telling this uh you know

905
00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:12,780
at every opportunity because one people

906
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:15,240
will have less less angst and upset

907
00:38:19,310 --> 00:38:16,440
about it

908
00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:19,320
and less cognizant dissonance but also

909
00:38:23,930 --> 00:38:21,780
for this somewhat subtle reason

910
00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:23,940
it's okay for the people to know that

911
00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:26,520
it's you can know that this is what's

912
00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:28,440
going on and still be very supportive

913
00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:30,660
like I am yeah I get it you knew but

914
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,280
okay now you're doing the right thing

915
00:38:36,349 --> 00:38:34,560
good good on you just don't drag it out

916
00:38:38,990 --> 00:38:36,359
let's get on with it let's move along

917
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,000
and I assure you the pace is far faster

918
00:38:44,810 --> 00:38:41,040
than you know these reports that are due

919
00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:44,820
in 2025 and 25 forget that get on with

920
00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:48,780
it right uh they are they're going to be

921
00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:51,420
a much more understanding all right and

922
00:38:55,069 --> 00:38:53,820
that that's important but also there's a

923
00:38:57,170 --> 00:38:55,079
I don't know it's kind of a personal

924
00:38:59,329 --> 00:38:57,180
thing look

925
00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,339
in order to end this truth embargo

926
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:02,160
they're literally having to quote lie

927
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,740
their way out from under a lie there's a

928
00:39:08,510 --> 00:39:06,240
whole lot of things being done and said

929
00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:08,520
that are mendacious they're

930
00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:10,500
misrepresented because they have to stay

931
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:12,660
within certain lines things they can't

932
00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:15,839
say and to their good credit they do a

933
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:18,180
lot of can't talk about that and you're

934
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,560
thinking you know if you just learned

935
00:39:23,210 --> 00:39:20,880
about this what is it that you can't

936
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:23,220
talk about well that's okay all of this

937
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:24,900
is a lot but but

938
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:28,800
it is in fact lying to end a lie and

939
00:39:34,490 --> 00:39:32,160
therefore my feeling is this

940
00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:34,500
I want people to know the truth

941
00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:36,660
the truth is they're lying their way out

942
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:38,820
from under a lie and to me that makes it

943
00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:40,680
a little more acceptable in other words

944
00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:42,900
I don't want the the end of the truth

945
00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:45,660
embargo to be basically another how

946
00:39:49,849 --> 00:39:48,300
would you say true misrepresentation I

947
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:49,859
mean it is a misrepresentation but I

948
00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:52,440
don't want people to to know that I want

949
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:54,300
them to understand that there this is

950
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:58,079
this is a process to good purpose

951
00:40:01,849 --> 00:40:00,000
and while they are they are being

952
00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:01,859
mendacious

953
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,780
you know the truth in other words you

954
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,280
know what they're doing and therefore it

955
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:07,200
makes it to me less

956
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:10,079
more acceptable and less disturbing

957
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:12,000
right yeah I don't think they're yeah

958
00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:13,980
yeah and I don't think I'm saying that's

959
00:40:16,609 --> 00:40:15,540
a little awkward but that's that's what

960
00:40:19,010 --> 00:40:16,619
I'm trying to get I don't think they're

961
00:40:20,589 --> 00:40:19,020
going to kick the can down the road uh

962
00:40:23,089 --> 00:40:20,599
this time around

963
00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:23,099
but but there's another thing that comes

964
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,780
into play here and then I want to get to

965
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:27,599
your points on uh the ndaa and we still

966
00:40:32,349 --> 00:40:29,820
have to get to the odni tonight too as

967
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:32,359
well yeah a lot of stuff here but um

968
00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:35,760
there's another there's another uh card

969
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:38,280
that is and that is going to be played

970
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:39,780
and that's the James Webb Space

971
00:40:46,490 --> 00:40:43,320
Telescope and so if I had a crystal ball

972
00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:46,500
here this is my crystal ball it's very

973
00:40:53,710 --> 00:40:49,859
rarely wrong Steve I'm I'm wrong but not

974
00:40:58,130 --> 00:40:53,720
that often because I have a lot of money

975
00:41:01,609 --> 00:40:58,140
and that crystal ball is telling me that

976
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:01,619
we will get the announcement

977
00:41:06,170 --> 00:41:04,740
um about the past and and where we are

978
00:41:08,450 --> 00:41:06,180
today and what the government knows

979
00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:08,460
after

980
00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:12,119
the James Webb Telescope confirms a

981
00:41:18,109 --> 00:41:15,720
techno signature on an exoplanet once

982
00:41:21,410 --> 00:41:18,119
that went what because that the the

983
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,420
James Webb is international okay that it

984
00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:23,940
it is not a United States project it's

985
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:25,320
an international project with

986
00:41:31,069 --> 00:41:28,320
International scientists and astronomers

987
00:41:33,130 --> 00:41:31,079
that are involved in physicists and so

988
00:41:36,970 --> 00:41:33,140
when that techno signature biosphere

989
00:41:39,890 --> 00:41:36,980
evidence of uh uh an advanced

990
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,900
extraterrestrial civilization that

991
00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:42,480
announcement happens you've got to come

992
00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:44,940
clean and you have the support of

993
00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:47,400
science so it's in my estimation that

994
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:49,380
that's going to happen soon look I've

995
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:51,240
talked about this on a number of shows

996
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,520
it is is certainly I know that they've

997
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:56,400
thought about it uh in other words

998
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,839
uh you know we've got an awkward

999
00:42:03,710 --> 00:41:59,520
situation here what if

1000
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,720
uh we did find a clear artifact on Mars

1001
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,000
you know you know sort of an iPad thingy

1002
00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:08,160
or whatever uh and then we revealed that

1003
00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:10,380
and people go oh my god there had to be

1004
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,060
a civilization on Mars a billion years

1005
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:14,480
ago that would kind of break the ice

1006
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:17,400
that would that would that would ease

1007
00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:19,859
the pain you could rip the Band-Aid off

1008
00:42:24,349 --> 00:42:22,440
at that point so but but again we're

1009
00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:24,359
talking you know again it's a safer play

1010
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:26,460
because again whatever was on Mars it

1011
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:27,599
was a billion years ago they're long

1012
00:42:33,230 --> 00:42:29,820
gone same thing with the web they they

1013
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:33,240
may discover through the web a a clear

1014
00:42:38,329 --> 00:42:36,780
indication of a life planet and might

1015
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:38,339
even maybe pick up some satellites

1016
00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:39,599
cruising around it therefore they've

1017
00:42:43,069 --> 00:42:40,980
just confirmed that there's life on this

1018
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:43,079
thing out there keep in mind that the

1019
00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:44,339
light that came from that planet

1020
00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:47,579
probably is is like uh you know 400

1021
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,700
million years old so again a safe play

1022
00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:52,800
and I know that they thought about that

1023
00:42:56,329 --> 00:42:54,900
and I could get the logic but there is a

1024
00:42:58,010 --> 00:42:56,339
problem there okay

1025
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,020
because

1026
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:00,720
while it does kind of take a little the

1027
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:03,359
sting out of the issue and it does open

1028
00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:05,040
the door a little bit for people to come

1029
00:43:09,790 --> 00:43:07,140
forward it still doesn't alter the fact

1030
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:09,800
they've been lying about this since 47.

1031
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:12,240
it doesn't alter anything but it takes

1032
00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:15,440
the focus off of Washington DC

1033
00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:17,640
it's going to put the focus on DC

1034
00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:18,660
because that's just going to increase

1035
00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:20,700
the pressure on the truth embargo but

1036
00:43:23,450 --> 00:43:22,440
what here's the here's the downside to

1037
00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:23,460
it

1038
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,060
what the government's trying to do is

1039
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,760
say to show the people you know we

1040
00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:31,200
finally come to our senses and we're

1041
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:33,180
doing the right thing we're doing what

1042
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,460
we should have done see us do this look

1043
00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:36,720
at all these things we're doing look at

1044
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,579
the legislation look at the witnesses

1045
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:40,560
that are coming forward look at the dod

1046
00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:42,420
coming together and all this wonderful

1047
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:44,940
stuff we're doing the right thing you

1048
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:46,440
don't get that if they suddenly just

1049
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,420
find something on Mars What You Get

1050
00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:49,680
There is

1051
00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:52,020
wait a minute artifact on Mars yeah sure

1052
00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:53,460
it's a billion years but clearly there's

1053
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,260
life outside the planet that just

1054
00:43:58,490 --> 00:43:57,119
confirms you've been lying all these 72

1055
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,500
years and they haven't started doing the

1056
00:44:02,569 --> 00:44:00,720
right thing yet you see the problem I

1057
00:44:06,109 --> 00:44:02,579
didn't lose most of the public relations

1058
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,119
benefit it does and so and my point that

1059
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:10,079
I'm making uh that if you have suddenly

1060
00:44:15,530 --> 00:44:12,480
a conversation going on about planet

1061
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:15,540
number three a Trappist one that's got a

1062
00:44:19,569 --> 00:44:17,220
techno signature we can see the lights

1063
00:44:23,150 --> 00:44:19,579
of cities there and they've got carbon

1064
00:44:26,089 --> 00:44:23,160
gases and and pollution and and things

1065
00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:26,099
there's that and so that conversation is

1066
00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:28,200
going to be going on instead of the

1067
00:44:33,650 --> 00:44:32,099
singular conversation of disclosure here

1068
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,660
you'd have both going on at the same

1069
00:44:39,410 --> 00:44:36,000
time takes the heat off of one and

1070
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:39,420
you've got a shared pressure uh to deal

1071
00:44:44,569 --> 00:44:41,700
with instead of a singular pressure

1072
00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:44,579
point they both are going on at the same

1073
00:44:49,609 --> 00:44:46,260
time I happen to think the government

1074
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,619
has photographs

1075
00:44:53,329 --> 00:44:51,599
work that confirms it that are nicely

1076
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:53,339
tucked away in some vaults which is

1077
00:44:56,809 --> 00:44:54,900
another awkward thing but here's a

1078
00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:56,819
here's a simpler way to put it

1079
00:45:00,170 --> 00:44:58,440
if we go through the process that's

1080
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:00,180
underway now and it allows the president

1081
00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:02,520
to in a fairly nonpartisan way confirm

1082
00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:04,140
the ET presence there's massive

1083
00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:05,880
political benefits to that okay

1084
00:45:10,250 --> 00:45:08,040
everybody's winning the Congress both

1085
00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:10,260
parties the dod the president

1086
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:11,700
everybody's greatest event in human

1087
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:14,040
history if if suddenly the web

1088
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:15,720
telescopes discover that looks like

1089
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,060
there's sentient life on a Planet 2

1090
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:19,920
billion light years away there's no

1091
00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:22,319
political benefits you see see what I'm

1092
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:24,780
getting at here this is a complex

1093
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,599
process yes yes yes except and this is

1094
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:29,520
just like dinner at my house this is

1095
00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:31,680
what it was like because I have to go

1096
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:36,890
is that what we did that night was it

1097
00:45:40,730 --> 00:45:38,040
right I think it was fake it was steak

1098
00:45:44,290 --> 00:45:40,740
and salad it was a steak and and I ate

1099
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:44,300
huge amounts of chocolate peanuts

1100
00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:46,160
that's right

1101
00:45:49,730 --> 00:45:48,660
or maybe it was chocolate cashews I

1102
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:49,740
wrote a tilled my way through a whole

1103
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:51,920
can it was uh it was amazing chocolate

1104
00:45:55,329 --> 00:45:54,540
dark chocolate almonds I think is what

1105
00:45:58,849 --> 00:45:55,339
it was

1106
00:46:02,390 --> 00:45:58,859
but but it's it's this

1107
00:46:03,790 --> 00:46:02,400
if uh if things fire off and fire off

1108
00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:03,800
really quickly

1109
00:46:11,809 --> 00:46:09,720
and NASA suddenly has this under their

1110
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:11,819
you know you can tuck this in in into

1111
00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:14,640
their belt NASA's got all the funding

1112
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,740
that they cry about [\h__\h] all the time

1113
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,200
well your muscle has been tied down like

1114
00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:21,599
in the little Pullins what is it that uh

1115
00:46:30,849 --> 00:46:25,380
that that that book uh tied down to the

1116
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:35,329
unable to to to basically do the thing

1117
00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:36,480
that would probably get him more

1118
00:46:40,130 --> 00:46:38,579
attention and more money uh and they've

1119
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:40,140
suffered because of it so it was

1120
00:46:43,609 --> 00:46:41,940
incredibly significant when Bill Nelson

1121
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,619
was put in charge of NASA former

1122
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:46,079
astronaut and Intel Senate Intel

1123
00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:48,000
committee Senator and then he comes out

1124
00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:49,500
and says we're we're into it we're

1125
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,980
investigating so this process it's not

1126
00:46:56,809 --> 00:46:54,079
just about

1127
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,819
helping the public relations issues that

1128
00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:58,319
the Congress or the president will face

1129
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:01,140
also NASA Air Force all of them face

1130
00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:04,800
serious uh public relations image issues

1131
00:47:08,930 --> 00:47:07,079
post-disclosure and so to the extent

1132
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:08,940
they're doing the right thing which NASA

1133
00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:11,760
is doing under Bill Nelson the public is

1134
00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:14,220
the Millennials are going to go hey I'm

1135
00:47:18,109 --> 00:47:16,500
great with it and the Old Guard who have

1136
00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:18,119
been around and know better are going to

1137
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:20,760
be generous and so again

1138
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,920
that's how I invite people to look at

1139
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:24,960
this and that way they will be they

1140
00:47:29,390 --> 00:47:27,540
won't be so irritated when there's

1141
00:47:31,309 --> 00:47:29,400
something in the act and you're going

1142
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:31,319
what do you mean you're looking at that

1143
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:34,319
hell that was covered in 1962 in this

1144
00:47:37,849 --> 00:47:36,839
book or that book no they're they're

1145
00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:37,859
they're they're they're they're starting

1146
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:40,560
in a sense from scratch in a way but

1147
00:47:43,970 --> 00:47:42,300
it's because they need to do it that way

1148
00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:43,980
and I'm totally supportive of that

1149
00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:46,440
unless somehow they get the idea okay

1150
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,420
it's working so well let's drag it out

1151
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:50,400
let's see if we can drag this out to

1152
00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:53,880
2030. no that's going to go very badly

1153
00:48:00,349 --> 00:47:55,859
yeah that's not the way it's going to go

1154
00:48:02,329 --> 00:48:00,359
down and I I firmly believe that the

1155
00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:02,339
world is not going to freak out and I

1156
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:05,460
think the majority of the world

1157
00:48:10,089 --> 00:48:08,460
um it would uh it would be headline news

1158
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:10,099
for a minute

1159
00:48:16,849 --> 00:48:13,760
it'll be a brand new day 24 hours later

1160
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:16,859
it'll be headline news for like weeks

1161
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:18,540
and months I mean it will be a

1162
00:48:24,290 --> 00:48:21,440
journalistic uh tsunami yeah

1163
00:48:27,710 --> 00:48:24,300
you can argue every point that I say but

1164
00:48:29,089 --> 00:48:27,720
here's but here's the thing

1165
00:48:31,790 --> 00:48:29,099
um you're with me here in Southern

1166
00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:31,800
California we have the 405 and the 101

1167
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:33,420
the busiest intersection in the world

1168
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:35,339
right right here right right there four

1169
00:48:41,089 --> 00:48:38,819
or five in the 101 it's crazy 5 p.m it's

1170
00:48:44,329 --> 00:48:41,099
the worst traffic on planet Earth at

1171
00:48:47,089 --> 00:48:44,339
that moment if a flying saucer came down

1172
00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:47,099
and landed in the middle of the 405 and

1173
00:48:51,530 --> 00:48:48,359
blocked

1174
00:48:53,569 --> 00:48:51,540
rush hour traffic you would have some

1175
00:48:56,510 --> 00:48:53,579
people freaking out shooting cell phones

1176
00:48:58,970 --> 00:48:56,520
and that would last for about 15 minutes

1177
00:49:00,770 --> 00:48:58,980
but about 15 minutes later you're gonna

1178
00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:00,780
have people going get that freaking

1179
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:02,700
thing off of the freeway oh I

1180
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:05,400
misunderstood you yeah the public will

1181
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:08,460
go we'll go okay fantastic and then a

1182
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:09,900
week later you know it's like okay what

1183
00:49:14,329 --> 00:49:11,940
do you got next I was referring this to

1184
00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:14,339
the media the media is going to go nuts

1185
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:15,780
because we're talking story we're

1186
00:49:20,030 --> 00:49:17,400
talking eyeballs we're talking money

1187
00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:20,040
here so they will just Feast on it for

1188
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:21,420
weeks and months but you know there's a

1189
00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:23,339
lot of people hey I knew that 15 25

1190
00:49:29,050 --> 00:49:26,040
years ago okay what have you got for me

1191
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,060
okay show me some craft

1192
00:49:33,410 --> 00:49:31,440
what kind of tech have you got all of

1193
00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:33,420
these questions are going to come up and

1194
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:35,940
the process will will get underway in

1195
00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:37,800
the post disclosure World which is where

1196
00:49:43,790 --> 00:49:41,940
we're going and uh the one of the one of

1197
00:49:45,530 --> 00:49:43,800
the things that's been happening in the

1198
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:45,540
last 10 years particularly with the rise

1199
00:49:50,510 --> 00:49:47,400
of podcasting and of course more shows

1200
00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:50,520
like yours and and so forth is that the

1201
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:55,140
ability of the public now to ensure that

1202
00:49:58,990 --> 00:49:57,599
they will be fully engaged in this issue

1203
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,000
that they're not going to be just

1204
00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:01,440
waiting for the next press release from

1205
00:50:05,809 --> 00:50:03,720
the Pentagon I assure you we have a

1206
00:50:08,690 --> 00:50:05,819
massive media and social media

1207
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:08,700
infrastructure ready to come in and

1208
00:50:13,370 --> 00:50:11,400
feast on this and I think they know that

1209
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,380
and I'm sure they're going to cooperate

1210
00:50:19,069 --> 00:50:16,319
with it so it's like hey we are not

1211
00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:19,079
going to be left off the stage this time

1212
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:21,480
when this happens uh and that's very

1213
00:50:24,410 --> 00:50:23,160
important and I think they know that let

1214
00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:24,420
me add something that I've mentioned

1215
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:25,260
before

1216
00:50:29,089 --> 00:50:27,300
man this is from an inside source I have

1217
00:50:31,790 --> 00:50:29,099
I don't have many I get a couple yeah

1218
00:50:35,329 --> 00:50:31,800
nothing special but my understanding is

1219
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:35,339
is that in the early 90s the Pentagon uh

1220
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,140
provided a multi-million dollar contract

1221
00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:39,599
to a major public relations firm in in

1222
00:50:44,270 --> 00:50:41,700
Washington DC

1223
00:50:46,550 --> 00:50:44,280
which I believe is Hillary Knowlton

1224
00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:46,560
it's a big firm big deal multi-million

1225
00:50:51,950 --> 00:50:49,380
what was the classified of course what

1226
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:51,960
was the the deal

1227
00:50:57,950 --> 00:50:55,020
game this thing out study and get back

1228
00:51:00,049 --> 00:50:57,960
to with a report of the various ways we

1229
00:51:02,990 --> 00:51:00,059
could go about finally confirming ET

1230
00:51:06,349 --> 00:51:03,000
presence to the public okay and while

1231
00:51:08,510 --> 00:51:06,359
you're at it game out the various ways

1232
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:08,520
the public might react and institutions

1233
00:51:12,109 --> 00:51:10,260
and then it will react to disclosure

1234
00:51:13,849 --> 00:51:12,119
Senator was give us a picture on this

1235
00:51:16,370 --> 00:51:13,859
from a public relations perspective

1236
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,380
remember the Department of Defense has

1237
00:51:20,329 --> 00:51:18,000
got super computers running super

1238
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:20,339
computers they can gain things down to

1239
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,800
the granular level but they're not

1240
00:51:25,730 --> 00:51:24,480
public relations Specialists so they

1241
00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:25,740
want it from that point of view

1242
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,900
apparently four or five years later in

1243
00:51:31,309 --> 00:51:29,520
the late 90s they got that report back

1244
00:51:32,930 --> 00:51:31,319
right around the time that I think the

1245
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:32,940
Rockefeller initiative was wrapping up

1246
00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:35,520
at the Clinton Administration the point

1247
00:51:38,990 --> 00:51:37,260
I'm making is look do you think the

1248
00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:39,000
government hasn't thought about how this

1249
00:51:43,849 --> 00:51:41,880
would go down how the disclosure process

1250
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:43,859
might unfold particularly in a national

1251
00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:46,319
security level and how uh how they would

1252
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:48,300
handle it of course they have they've

1253
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,220
gained it eight ways to Sunday so it's

1254
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:53,520
not believe me so what you're seeing is

1255
00:51:56,750 --> 00:51:54,720
not something you just got thrown

1256
00:51:59,089 --> 00:51:56,760
together at the last minute this has

1257
00:52:02,150 --> 00:51:59,099
been in the works for a long time but it

1258
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,160
did a trigger to sort of get it going

1259
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:04,319
because I'm sure that in spite of their

1260
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,700
plans and what they would like to do

1261
00:52:10,670 --> 00:52:07,680
there's an internal inertia because

1262
00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:10,680
again huge huge public relations issues

1263
00:52:14,809 --> 00:52:13,380
why not just pretend it's not there Kick

1264
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:14,819
the Can down the road wait till I'm

1265
00:52:20,329 --> 00:52:15,960
retired

1266
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:20,339
but that trigger was 2017. one can say

1267
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,359
it was the two the Stars Academy

1268
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:23,280
announcement in the film where melon and

1269
00:52:26,930 --> 00:52:24,720
Elizondo got up there and set some

1270
00:52:29,210 --> 00:52:26,940
rather amazing things others will say it

1271
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:29,220
was the New York Times articles those

1272
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:30,599
massively important articles that were

1273
00:52:35,450 --> 00:52:32,700
printed on two consecutive days December

1274
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:35,460
16th 17th first on on the web and then

1275
00:52:40,370 --> 00:52:36,480
online

1276
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:40,380
whichever the this was the trigger that

1277
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:41,700
set in motion

1278
00:52:46,609 --> 00:52:43,680
what they had probably thinking of doing

1279
00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:46,619
for a long time but couldn't it was set

1280
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:48,300
in motion by people operating pretty

1281
00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:49,740
much I think on their own this was

1282
00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:51,720
personal stuff it wasn't some

1283
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,940
orchestrated thing from within the dod

1284
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:56,400
okay guys do this do that pretend you're

1285
00:53:01,490 --> 00:52:59,520
now now this was good people making hey

1286
00:53:04,670 --> 00:53:01,500
enough is enough we're gonna act on our

1287
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:04,680
own but it is notable that you know if

1288
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,000
they didn't all end up on us Island

1289
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:08,640
somewhere or you know forced to work

1290
00:53:12,410 --> 00:53:10,680
underground at area 51. I mean they were

1291
00:53:13,970 --> 00:53:12,420
allowed to go forward so it means that

1292
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:13,980
overall even though a lot of the

1293
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:15,359
government was surprised by what

1294
00:53:21,290 --> 00:53:17,839
happened in in October and December of

1295
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:21,300
2016 rather yeah 2016.

1296
00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:23,099
ultimately and there was some pushback

1297
00:53:25,730 --> 00:53:24,359
and there were some people going what

1298
00:53:27,290 --> 00:53:25,740
are you talking about no that's not true

1299
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:27,300
and because they didn't have the the the

1300
00:53:30,410 --> 00:53:28,859
the they didn't have the right

1301
00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:30,420
information

1302
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:31,800
they were allowed to go forward weren't

1303
00:53:35,210 --> 00:53:33,660
they they were allowed to go forward and

1304
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,220
when things didn't work out the way they

1305
00:53:38,329 --> 00:53:36,960
initially planned they didn't they

1306
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:38,339
weren't blocked when they came out

1307
00:53:42,829 --> 00:53:39,960
fundamentally with the two of the Stars

1308
00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:42,839
Academy in 2017. in other words there

1309
00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:45,180
was a fundamental resignation within the

1310
00:53:49,130 --> 00:53:46,740
military intelligence complex the

1311
00:53:51,049 --> 00:53:49,140
trigger's been pulled okay

1312
00:53:54,290 --> 00:53:51,059
let's go with this and see what happens

1313
00:53:57,290 --> 00:53:54,300
well and what didn't happen Steve

1314
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:57,300
the Vatican didn't implode people didn't

1315
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,960
jump off Wall Street didn't collapse and

1316
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:03,599
I think the general when I talk to

1317
00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:06,240
people that have nothing to do with

1318
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:08,760
never seen an episode of Ancient Aliens

1319
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,640
never heard of uh Coast to Coast or Fade

1320
00:54:16,030 --> 00:54:13,200
to Black

1321
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,040
um when I talked to them about this

1322
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,480
the universe is a big place of course

1323
00:54:23,569 --> 00:54:20,880
we're not alone so what's the big deal

1324
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:23,579
here I think I think that was the

1325
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:26,640
average uh the world it wasn't the

1326
00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:29,640
Condon report 2.0 right it wasn't the

1327
00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:32,280
Robertson it wasn't Rand corporation's

1328
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:34,980
analysis on this no it's unprecedented

1329
00:54:41,150 --> 00:54:38,640
it was unprecedented and uh and uh

1330
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:41,160
um I I think that

1331
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,540
look

1332
00:54:46,970 --> 00:54:44,640
I I think I know what the original plan

1333
00:54:49,069 --> 00:54:46,980
was and and things happen look when

1334
00:54:52,370 --> 00:54:49,079
you're trying to work on something like

1335
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,380
this this level this importance man

1336
00:54:55,549 --> 00:54:54,240
history can just throw your curveballs

1337
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:55,559
all day long and so this thing is

1338
00:54:59,809 --> 00:54:57,599
dragged down a lot longer than I think

1339
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,819
it would have because of developments

1340
00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:01,440
around the world and what have you this

1341
00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:03,780
is this happens it's not really

1342
00:55:07,849 --> 00:55:06,660
anybody's fault it is just life so it's

1343
00:55:10,370 --> 00:55:07,859
dragged it out which made it a little

1344
00:55:13,309 --> 00:55:10,380
tougher all right and and a little more

1345
00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:13,319
Awkward uh but nevertheless in spite of

1346
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:14,940
all that has happened in the last five

1347
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,240
years chaos and new Wars and nuclear

1348
00:55:22,450 --> 00:55:20,400
threats and you know the odd massive

1349
00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:22,460
worldwide pandemic

1350
00:55:27,530 --> 00:55:25,980
they've continued on anyway all right

1351
00:55:29,329 --> 00:55:27,540
and now we're practically on the

1352
00:55:30,589 --> 00:55:29,339
threshold and I'll be getting that in a

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00:55:34,609 --> 00:55:30,599
little bit when I get into the the

1354
00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:34,619
granular stuff but I'm impressed by the

1355
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,780
fact that this thing has just moved

1356
00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:38,640
forward relentlessly no matter what has

1357
00:55:43,010 --> 00:55:40,800
been thrown at it now a nuclear war is

1358
00:55:44,930 --> 00:55:43,020
definitely gonna uh interrupt the

1359
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:44,940
process it's going to be bad okay it's

1360
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bad bad for disclosure bad for

1361
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let's take our break right here Stephen

1362
00:55:59,809 --> 00:55:56,460
when we come back we'll get we'll go

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00:56:01,210 --> 00:55:59,819
granular granular absolutely that's a

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great word

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sorry I'm sorry what was that I wear the

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chocolate almonds well we're on break

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all right welcome back our guest tonight

1440
00:59:32,270 --> 00:59:29,160
Steven Bassett of uh prg and we are

1441
00:59:37,010 --> 00:59:32,280
breaking down a few things tonight we

1442
00:59:41,569 --> 00:59:37,020
are right in the middle of uh 2023 and

1443
00:59:44,809 --> 00:59:41,579
some serious movement on uh disclosure

1444
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:44,819
and E.T and and and what is going on not

1445
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:46,680
only with with our planet but the

1446
00:59:54,609 --> 00:59:50,640
universe around us too as well and uh we

1447
00:59:58,670 --> 00:59:54,619
are about to go granular into the ndaa

1448
01:00:04,250 --> 00:59:58,680
and which uh you know there's over 40

1449
01:00:08,210 --> 01:00:04,260
pages of uh the 2023 budget uh dealing

1450
01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:08,220
with uh the UAP issue specifically and

1451
01:00:13,490 --> 01:00:10,680
and Steve when you say going granular

1452
01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:13,500
I'm very interested in in what you're

1453
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:16,260
going to pick first so uh what's what's

1454
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:18,839
top of the list yeah there's no special

1455
01:00:22,490 --> 01:00:20,880
order to this but I'm just pointing out

1456
01:00:24,349 --> 01:00:22,500
some interesting things that I think

1457
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:24,359
we'll Muse

1458
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:26,700
um and I should mention forgive me but

1459
01:00:29,150 --> 01:00:28,260
I'm going to follow up on your your

1460
01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:29,160
break

1461
01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:31,380
uh I'm going to be speaking I'm going to

1462
01:00:37,250 --> 01:00:34,140
be at the conscious life Expo my first

1463
01:00:40,609 --> 01:00:37,260
on stage stuff in three years I'm also

1464
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,619
going to be at the UFO Expo in March in

1465
01:00:44,329 --> 01:00:42,480
Roswell they're actually holding another

1466
01:00:46,130 --> 01:00:44,339
conference in Roswell and then there's

1467
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,140
going to be a massive contact in the

1468
01:00:49,609 --> 01:00:48,480
desert it's back that is in June two to

1469
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:49,619
four I'm going to be presenting

1470
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,599
extensively there and there's going to

1471
01:00:55,789 --> 01:00:53,520
be much more to talk about but the

1472
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,799
conference are starting to shape up this

1473
01:01:00,289 --> 01:00:57,359
could be the best year of conferences

1474
01:01:03,170 --> 01:01:00,299
ever because well it's time to move on

1475
01:01:05,390 --> 01:01:03,180
with life and the issue is En Fuego so I

1476
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,400
just want to mention that okay now let's

1477
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:07,680
first talk about the report

1478
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:09,599
it was uh I don't know what it was what

1479
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,000
was it 22 pages I think and by the way

1480
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:13,920
I'll put some links on my social media

1481
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:16,079
Twitter and Facebook with the links to

1482
01:01:20,329 --> 01:01:17,520
all these little things you want to go

1483
01:01:21,950 --> 01:01:20,339
grab them easy and since I mentioned

1484
01:01:26,030 --> 01:01:21,960
that and because there's a lot of things

1485
01:01:28,609 --> 01:01:26,040
coming from my world uh uh uh Paradigm

1486
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:28,619
research group has a Twitter account uh

1487
01:01:33,289 --> 01:01:31,920
please if you if you uh follow it you'll

1488
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:33,299
you'll get stuff from me all the time

1489
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:35,220
about this plus I need more followers

1490
01:01:39,230 --> 01:01:37,740
please Facebook as well Paradigm

1491
01:01:41,210 --> 01:01:39,240
research group and Steve Bassett but

1492
01:01:43,069 --> 01:01:41,220
certainly Twitter I'll put some links up

1493
01:01:44,049 --> 01:01:43,079
on the social media so the report comes

1494
01:01:45,650 --> 01:01:44,059
in

1495
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:45,660
and

1496
01:01:48,349 --> 01:01:46,200
um

1497
01:01:50,750 --> 01:01:48,359
this paragraph is like the fourth

1498
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:50,760
paragraph and I'm going to read it

1499
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:53,520
because I want you to to get its power

1500
01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:54,799
all right

1501
01:01:59,690 --> 01:01:57,780
because this this paragraph has never

1502
01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,700
been written anywhere prior to this

1503
01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:01,920
report going back to the end the

1504
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:04,680
beginning of time it says

1505
01:02:12,589 --> 01:02:09,839
this report was drafted by the odnis Nim

1506
01:02:14,329 --> 01:02:12,599
Aviation Group which is the one that put

1507
01:02:16,370 --> 01:02:14,339
out that patch with a little saucer on

1508
01:02:17,930 --> 01:02:16,380
it that was kind of a joke in

1509
01:02:21,010 --> 01:02:17,940
conjunction with arrow

1510
01:02:24,049 --> 01:02:21,020
the all domain anomaly resolution office

1511
01:02:25,549 --> 01:02:24,059
which is the final was the one they had

1512
01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:25,559
two other things they came up with the

1513
01:02:30,049 --> 01:02:28,680
acronyms were unbelievably awful this is

1514
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:30,059
perfect

1515
01:02:35,030 --> 01:02:33,119
all domain anomaly resolution office

1516
01:02:37,730 --> 01:02:35,040
does not have UAP in it and doesn't have

1517
01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:37,740
UFOs in it right it's

1518
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,140
but when you pronounce the acronym you

1519
01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:42,720
get Arrow right clearly indicating

1520
01:02:48,410 --> 01:02:45,960
something in the air I love this

1521
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:48,420
it includes input from the under

1522
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:50,220
secretary of defense for intelligence

1523
01:02:55,970 --> 01:02:53,280
and security the USD ins the defense

1524
01:02:58,430 --> 01:02:55,980
intelligence agency Dia the Federal

1525
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,440
Bureau of Investigation FBI the national

1526
01:03:03,890 --> 01:03:00,720
reconnaissance office nro the National

1527
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:03,900
geospatial Intelligence Agency NGA the

1528
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:06,480
National Security Agency NSA the U.S

1529
01:03:10,190 --> 01:03:08,400
army the U.S Navy the US Marine Corps

1530
01:03:12,289 --> 01:03:10,200
the U.S Air Force the Federal Aviation

1531
01:03:14,030 --> 01:03:12,299
Administration the National Aeronautics

1532
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:14,040
and Space Administration that would be

1533
01:03:18,170 --> 01:03:16,079
NASA the national oceanographic and

1534
01:03:21,049 --> 01:03:18,180
Atmospheric Administration NOAA the

1535
01:03:23,569 --> 01:03:21,059
department of energy the doe the odni

1536
01:03:26,349 --> 01:03:23,579
Nim emerging and disruptive technology

1537
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,359
group whoa the odni national

1538
01:03:31,549 --> 01:03:28,319
counterintelligence and security Center

1539
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:31,559
the ncsc and odni National Intelligence

1540
01:03:35,870 --> 01:03:32,880
Council

1541
01:03:37,549 --> 01:03:35,880
OD and i n i c

1542
01:03:38,829 --> 01:03:37,559
what what happened there what just

1543
01:03:42,049 --> 01:03:38,839
happened there

1544
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:42,059
basically saying that all of these

1545
01:03:49,010 --> 01:03:45,839
entities are reporting to

1546
01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:49,020
Arrow to create this report

1547
01:03:54,530 --> 01:03:51,839
what is what is this this is called a

1548
01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:54,540
cross agency working group that is what

1549
01:03:59,329 --> 01:03:56,579
is being set up in response to the

1550
01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,339
legislation who isn't in that group I

1551
01:04:04,250 --> 01:04:02,160
mean this is this is this is it this is

1552
01:04:08,329 --> 01:04:04,260
the uh what I don't know what to call it

1553
01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:08,339
and so whoa all right that is massive

1554
01:04:12,650 --> 01:04:10,260
okay and that is across agency working

1555
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,660
group and I want to explain what that is

1556
01:04:15,530 --> 01:04:14,400
because a lot of people don't know what

1557
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:15,540
that is

1558
01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:18,000
a cross agency or interagency working

1559
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:18,900
group

1560
01:04:24,349 --> 01:04:21,660
is something that is set up across two

1561
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:24,359
four five fifteen twenty entities as

1562
01:04:29,930 --> 01:04:27,599
needed to deal with an important issue

1563
01:04:32,450 --> 01:04:29,940
in in good order probably already

1564
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,460
happening there will be two three

1565
01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:34,799
thousand people in that working group

1566
01:04:37,789 --> 01:04:36,180
all right

1567
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:37,799
but this is what people need to

1568
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:39,059
understand

1569
01:04:43,609 --> 01:04:41,160
that doesn't mean that those people

1570
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:43,619
don't have a job they they have other

1571
01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:45,599
jobs within these entities that they do

1572
01:04:50,450 --> 01:04:48,059
their core job however they have been

1573
01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:50,460
assigned to this working group to

1574
01:04:55,549 --> 01:04:52,859
participate so it's like part-time

1575
01:04:57,230 --> 01:04:55,559
little part-time thing across all of

1576
01:04:59,150 --> 01:04:57,240
these agencies it's not like they're

1577
01:05:00,770 --> 01:04:59,160
forming some massive office with a

1578
01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:00,780
building and they're sticking 2 000

1579
01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:03,359
people in it to work on this no this is

1580
01:05:07,010 --> 01:05:05,280
much more efficient effective so now

1581
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:07,020
what they're saying is we have people

1582
01:05:13,370 --> 01:05:10,079
now addressing this issue across all of

1583
01:05:15,710 --> 01:05:13,380
these entities the creme de La Creme and

1584
01:05:17,870 --> 01:05:15,720
they're going to be reporting to us

1585
01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:17,880
that's even bigger than setting up I

1586
01:05:21,289 --> 01:05:19,859
don't know just an apartment they're

1587
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:21,299
basically saying the whole government's

1588
01:05:24,650 --> 01:05:22,319
on board the entire Military

1589
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,660
Intelligence Community is on board we're

1590
01:05:29,690 --> 01:05:26,640
working for you okay that's what I want

1591
01:05:33,410 --> 01:05:29,700
to get across so that paragraph alone is

1592
01:05:35,089 --> 01:05:33,420
worth that report it it basically sends

1593
01:05:38,270 --> 01:05:35,099
a message to everybody my God

1594
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:38,280
everybody's in on this uh so wait for

1595
01:05:43,970 --> 01:05:41,760
new development now is there um with

1596
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:43,980
that though is there somebody and I

1597
01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:46,799
don't think it's Moultrie or Bray or or

1598
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:49,920
any other the names I think that the the

1599
01:05:56,170 --> 01:05:52,559
current director of Arrow as well is

1600
01:05:58,250 --> 01:05:56,180
slated to be Kirkpatrick yes it is

1601
01:06:03,410 --> 01:05:58,260
powerful enough

1602
01:06:05,569 --> 01:06:03,420
as a as a figurehead to make sure you

1603
01:06:08,569 --> 01:06:05,579
you've got to be a sheriff with bullets

1604
01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:08,579
in your gun right and you have to make

1605
01:06:12,650 --> 01:06:10,200
sure that people aren't sitting on their

1606
01:06:14,210 --> 01:06:12,660
hands or that you know if they don't

1607
01:06:16,730 --> 01:06:14,220
bother us then we're not we don't have

1608
01:06:19,849 --> 01:06:16,740
to give anything up and we don't want to

1609
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:19,859
share our secrets and which is the

1610
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,200
interagency problem that's been going on

1611
01:06:29,630 --> 01:06:25,440
forever that is a problem in Washington

1612
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:29,640
D.C uh agencies don't cooperate uh with

1613
01:06:36,349 --> 01:06:32,400
each other and so you need to have

1614
01:06:40,670 --> 01:06:36,359
somebody in place to make sure and and

1615
01:06:43,789 --> 01:06:40,680
to keep the fires burning that's uh that

1616
01:06:45,950 --> 01:06:43,799
somebody's paying attention and and who

1617
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:45,960
who is strong enough who's bigger a big

1618
01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:48,480
enough of a figure to go in there to

1619
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:51,660
make sure that we have the uaps are that

1620
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:54,480
is gonna uh keep the coordination going

1621
01:06:59,569 --> 01:06:56,880
with uh all of this interagency

1622
01:07:01,370 --> 01:06:59,579
dependents start hour I get well they're

1623
01:07:02,569 --> 01:07:01,380
not making a 10-pole movie with a 200

1624
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,579
million dollar budget and they've got to

1625
01:07:05,329 --> 01:07:04,079
get a 40 million dollar actor in there

1626
01:07:09,410 --> 01:07:05,339
no that's not what they're doing the

1627
01:07:11,690 --> 01:07:09,420
power of Arrow comes from this okay

1628
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:11,700
first of all it comes from the fact that

1629
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:14,160
under the legislation arrow is under the

1630
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:17,039
Aegis of not just the dod

1631
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,440
but the office of the Director of

1632
01:07:25,309 --> 01:07:21,839
National Intelligence Odie and I in

1633
01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:25,319
other words it's two the dod and the

1634
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:28,079
odni are jointly

1635
01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:31,440
controlling overseeing this project

1636
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,900
what's bigger than the dod and the

1637
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:35,520
office Director of National Intelligence

1638
01:07:39,470 --> 01:07:37,980
so anybody out there that's going ah

1639
01:07:41,150 --> 01:07:39,480
screw this I'm not going to do that let

1640
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,160
me just take a vacation whatever oh

1641
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,440
they're in deep trouble that that alone

1642
01:07:48,410 --> 01:07:45,599
has sent the message we are really

1643
01:07:49,970 --> 01:07:48,420
serious about this okay because if

1644
01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:49,980
they're not they're not just going to

1645
01:07:54,109 --> 01:07:51,480
embarrass the dod they're going to

1646
01:07:55,370 --> 01:07:54,119
embarrass a major uh position in the

1647
01:07:57,650 --> 01:07:55,380
administration of the current president

1648
01:07:59,690 --> 01:07:57,660
so that's part of where the power comes

1649
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,700
and the other power comes from what I

1650
01:08:04,309 --> 01:08:01,680
just read to you they're saying look

1651
01:08:05,890 --> 01:08:04,319
under Federal legislation all of these

1652
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:05,900
entities which is pretty much everything

1653
01:08:11,930 --> 01:08:09,359
out there uh of significance in the

1654
01:08:14,089 --> 01:08:11,940
military intelligence world are part of

1655
01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:14,099
this process they don't need a star

1656
01:08:19,370 --> 01:08:17,400
running it the process itself right is

1657
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:19,380
overwhelming and so believe me there

1658
01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:21,480
won't be any problem right in terms of

1659
01:08:26,510 --> 01:08:24,480
people dragging their feet this is the

1660
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,520
real deal folks even though they should

1661
01:08:31,130 --> 01:08:28,560
have done it 70 years ago this is the

1662
01:08:33,289 --> 01:08:31,140
real deal any debunker or anybody that

1663
01:08:35,090 --> 01:08:33,299
wants to kind of throw the you know a

1664
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:35,100
monkey wrench into this is probably

1665
01:08:41,570 --> 01:08:38,640
making a career ending mistake yeah and

1666
01:08:45,289 --> 01:08:41,580
and and and so uh we'll we'll go to your

1667
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,299
next granular uh position here but you

1668
01:08:52,130 --> 01:08:48,000
have to it's one thing to because it

1669
01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:52,140
looks great on paper right it does I man

1670
01:08:56,930 --> 01:08:53,940
yeah yes

1671
01:08:59,090 --> 01:08:56,940
yeah you have to make it happen it is

1672
01:09:00,769 --> 01:08:59,100
happening look this group is being set

1673
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,779
up I have inside and from I mean I I

1674
01:09:04,130 --> 01:09:02,640
have I know people in the group they're

1675
01:09:06,410 --> 01:09:04,140
setting this thing up across all these

1676
01:09:09,289 --> 01:09:06,420
agencies right it's not this is going to

1677
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:09,299
happen no it's happening now they're not

1678
01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:11,279
going to tell you all the details of

1679
01:09:14,809 --> 01:09:13,020
that that's not the way it works it's

1680
01:09:17,390 --> 01:09:14,819
it's not that it's their business for

1681
01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:17,400
now uh you could there are people God

1682
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:19,679
bless them my good friend John Greenwell

1683
01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:22,319
will will certainly be doing it filing

1684
01:09:26,030 --> 01:09:23,940
in foia's trying to get information

1685
01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:26,040
about what's going on but this is a

1686
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:27,900
rapidly growing massive process there's

1687
01:09:33,169 --> 01:09:30,000
no way we could keep up with it but it

1688
01:09:35,930 --> 01:09:33,179
is happening all right and that's I

1689
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:35,940
agree with you that it's happening but

1690
01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:38,640
you need to have somebody with a puffy

1691
01:09:45,130 --> 01:09:41,580
chest that can go to the Air Force and

1692
01:09:50,209 --> 01:09:47,870
is running this program and that puffy

1693
01:09:52,970 --> 01:09:50,219
chess would be the Secretary of Defense

1694
01:09:56,030 --> 01:09:52,980
in other words the secretary of defense

1695
01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:56,040
is the titular head of one of the

1696
01:10:01,850 --> 01:09:59,400
co-entities that is creating and and an

1697
01:10:04,010 --> 01:10:01,860
overseeing arrow and so if you want to

1698
01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:04,020
piss on it well you're going to get a

1699
01:10:08,090 --> 01:10:05,820
call from the sect deaf and it's going

1700
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:08,100
to go badly for you so don't worry about

1701
01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:11,280
the gravitas it's overwhelmingly filled

1702
01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:12,900
with gravitas

1703
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:15,719
um and those that are frustrated by all

1704
01:10:21,649 --> 01:10:19,199
these Decades of of uh of denial and so

1705
01:10:24,110 --> 01:10:21,659
forth I uh they're they're going I'll

1706
01:10:27,169 --> 01:10:24,120
see it when I believe it look

1707
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:27,179
all my entire job is to Simply watch all

1708
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,760
this happen and so I realize there are

1709
01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:30,960
people that are frustrated but they're

1710
01:10:34,729 --> 01:10:32,460
not they're not paying attention at this

1711
01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:34,739
level I I why should they I'm paying

1712
01:10:37,850 --> 01:10:35,940
attention for them and I've got

1713
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:37,860
colleagues doing the same thing and so

1714
01:10:43,550 --> 01:10:41,580
look relax chill it's happening right

1715
01:10:45,290 --> 01:10:43,560
and and and the one thing I tell people

1716
01:10:47,930 --> 01:10:45,300
to say okay what can I do what can I do

1717
01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:47,940
simple right you don't have to you don't

1718
01:10:51,229 --> 01:10:49,260
have to form a whole new group or

1719
01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:51,239
whatever go and write a book

1720
01:10:55,970 --> 01:10:53,340
go on Twitter and particularly Twitter

1721
01:10:57,950 --> 01:10:55,980
and start firing off praise to every

1722
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:57,960
single person doing the right thing okay

1723
01:11:02,330 --> 01:11:00,719
fire off Twitter and almost all of them

1724
01:11:05,209 --> 01:11:02,340
are on on Twitter everybody's on Twitter

1725
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,219
right fire off praise to Adam you know

1726
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:07,679
not to to uh Mark Warner and Mark Rubio

1727
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,040
to Burchette and griego right to

1728
01:11:15,709 --> 01:11:13,679
Gallagher Carson right fire off praise

1729
01:11:16,729 --> 01:11:15,719
to to uh Tucker Carlson and any of the

1730
01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:16,739
journalists that are writing good

1731
01:11:21,169 --> 01:11:19,020
articles send them tweets saying we

1732
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:21,179
really like what you're doing

1733
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:22,800
and this is something that has been

1734
01:11:27,290 --> 01:11:24,600
absent because of the frustration and

1735
01:11:29,090 --> 01:11:27,300
anger over this issue it is 10 times

1736
01:11:31,130 --> 01:11:29,100
easier to get people to move forward

1737
01:11:32,990 --> 01:11:31,140
when you praise them than when you tell

1738
01:11:36,050 --> 01:11:33,000
them what an [\h__\h] there are they are

1739
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:36,060
and it's been mostly the latter now we

1740
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:37,920
need to go to the former and now we have

1741
01:11:41,689 --> 01:11:39,840
a basis to do it look at all this good

1742
01:11:44,090 --> 01:11:41,699
stuff they're doing right and so I'm

1743
01:11:46,189 --> 01:11:44,100
telling people look go on Twitter and

1744
01:11:48,890 --> 01:11:46,199
praise the hell out of them because you

1745
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,900
know when people get praised and you

1746
01:11:52,970 --> 01:11:51,120
know this in your life they love to tell

1747
01:11:55,130 --> 01:11:52,980
other people about it oh I got this

1748
01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:55,140
fantastic tweet oh man I heard this from

1749
01:11:58,729 --> 01:11:56,760
my supporter but when they're when

1750
01:12:01,490 --> 01:11:58,739
they're told you know how awful they are

1751
01:12:03,890 --> 01:12:01,500
they don't share that and so praise

1752
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,900
means virality you've got all these

1753
01:12:07,729 --> 01:12:05,520
people telling other members of Congress

1754
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:07,739
and others inside the dod and elsewhere

1755
01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:10,020
boy the people love this I got this

1756
01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:11,940
wonderful tweet you see what I'm talking

1757
01:12:17,630 --> 01:12:14,760
about new words praise them to Victory

1758
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:17,640
and be graceful in Victory I don't want

1759
01:12:22,189 --> 01:12:19,920
to hear a bunch of I Told You So I want

1760
01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:22,199
to hear nothing but but Grace from

1761
01:12:26,090 --> 01:12:24,120
people because we're winning and let's

1762
01:12:28,189 --> 01:12:26,100
win well the only thing worse than a bad

1763
01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:28,199
loser is a bad winner and I played

1764
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:29,520
enough tennis to know what a bad winner

1765
01:12:34,490 --> 01:12:31,920
was like oh they're awful we don't want

1766
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,500
to be bad winners I'm preaching now

1767
01:12:38,090 --> 01:12:36,480
forgive me how do you get back over to

1768
01:12:39,770 --> 01:12:38,100
my house for another dinner talk about

1769
01:12:41,890 --> 01:12:39,780
my cooking that's all you got to do

1770
01:12:45,709 --> 01:12:41,900
Steve and uh

1771
01:12:47,090 --> 01:12:45,719
well well now you tell me I've talked

1772
01:12:49,070 --> 01:12:47,100
about your guitar playing I'm talking

1773
01:12:50,689 --> 01:12:49,080
about your your production days I've

1774
01:12:52,729 --> 01:12:50,699
talked about your personality I mean my

1775
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:52,739
God but okay yeah I didn't know the

1776
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:54,659
cooking was that big a thing for you but

1777
01:12:59,149 --> 01:12:56,400
I will say that was a great meal that

1778
01:13:01,990 --> 01:12:59,159
you provided let's go there it's the way

1779
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:02,000
to my heart okay

1780
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:06,239
in uh the the UAP report now again

1781
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,679
you'll notice I'm picking out things

1782
01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:09,600
that most people wouldn't have seized on

1783
01:13:14,030 --> 01:13:11,340
well that's what we report there's this

1784
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:14,040
this moment which I kind of like

1785
01:13:19,490 --> 01:13:17,040
it's about flight safety concerns right

1786
01:13:21,470 --> 01:13:19,500
and so they they go flight safety

1787
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,480
concerns and health implications UAP and

1788
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:23,520
I'll get to that's important thing pose

1789
01:13:27,229 --> 01:13:25,560
a safety of flight and collision Hazard

1790
01:13:29,209 --> 01:13:27,239
to air assets

1791
01:13:31,370 --> 01:13:29,219
now you know that these are the kinds of

1792
01:13:33,470 --> 01:13:31,380
issues that make it comfortable for

1793
01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:33,480
legislation to go forward and hearings

1794
01:13:37,910 --> 01:13:35,699
to be held I get it okay

1795
01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:37,920
potentially requiring aircraft operators

1796
01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:40,260
to adjust flight patterns in response to

1797
01:13:44,030 --> 01:13:41,940
their unauthorized presence in their

1798
01:13:46,250 --> 01:13:44,040
space operating outside of air traffic

1799
01:13:48,290 --> 01:13:46,260
control standards and instruction

1800
01:13:50,330 --> 01:13:48,300
and then it says this

1801
01:13:52,669 --> 01:13:50,340
to date

1802
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:52,679
there have been no reported collisions

1803
01:13:59,630 --> 01:13:56,040
between U.S aircraft and UAP why did

1804
01:14:02,870 --> 01:13:59,640
they have to that that stood out for me

1805
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:02,880
um why why have that in the report

1806
01:14:08,330 --> 01:14:05,760
because it's true right and not only

1807
01:14:09,950 --> 01:14:08,340
that they don't specify a time frame so

1808
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:09,960
I'm assuming this goes back all the way

1809
01:14:15,290 --> 01:14:13,679
to 1945 all right so since 1945 there

1810
01:14:17,930 --> 01:14:15,300
have been no reported collisions between

1811
01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:17,940
U.S aircraft and UAP and then the very

1812
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:20,340
next paragraph starts with this UAP

1813
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:22,320
continue to represent a hazard to flight

1814
01:14:27,050 --> 01:14:24,719
safety and pose a possible adversary

1815
01:14:28,610 --> 01:14:27,060
collection threat now that I get that

1816
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:28,620
okay adversary collections there put

1817
01:14:32,930 --> 01:14:30,719
that aside since the publication of the

1818
01:14:35,570 --> 01:14:32,940
odni preliminary assessment in June of

1819
01:14:37,610 --> 01:14:35,580
2021 UAP reporting has increased

1820
01:14:40,970 --> 01:14:37,620
partially due to a concentrated effort

1821
01:14:42,770 --> 01:14:40,980
to destigmatize the topic of UAP very

1822
01:14:45,229 --> 01:14:42,780
important statement and instead

1823
01:14:47,870 --> 01:14:45,239
recognize the potential risk that it

1824
01:14:51,770 --> 01:14:47,880
poses as both a safety and flight Hazard

1825
01:14:53,570 --> 01:14:51,780
potential adversarial activity again

1826
01:14:55,370 --> 01:14:53,580
remember what I said at the beginning of

1827
01:14:57,649 --> 01:14:55,380
this show you've got to always remind

1828
01:14:59,570 --> 01:14:57,659
yourself they've known for 70 years okay

1829
01:15:01,850 --> 01:14:59,580
so what's going on here okay here's what

1830
01:15:03,649 --> 01:15:01,860
they're they're doing

1831
01:15:05,149 --> 01:15:03,659
they're trying to be truthful there's

1832
01:15:07,370 --> 01:15:05,159
never actually been a collision with the

1833
01:15:09,530 --> 01:15:07,380
UAP okay because apparently they're damn

1834
01:15:11,570 --> 01:15:09,540
Nimble these UAP all right it's really

1835
01:15:15,649 --> 01:15:11,580
hard to crash into them very hard but

1836
01:15:17,570 --> 01:15:15,659
nevertheless this Potential Threat is is

1837
01:15:19,729 --> 01:15:17,580
helpful so we need to emphasize we need

1838
01:15:21,709 --> 01:15:19,739
to mention it because you know we want

1839
01:15:23,330 --> 01:15:21,719
the politicians need a safe reason to

1840
01:15:24,590 --> 01:15:23,340
get into this and not be embarrassed so

1841
01:15:27,410 --> 01:15:24,600
we're going to keep putting that out

1842
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:27,420
there okay and then

1843
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,480
they talk about the increased in

1844
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:32,159
reporting activity and they say it's

1845
01:15:37,250 --> 01:15:34,320
partially due to concentrated effort to

1846
01:15:39,290 --> 01:15:37,260
destigmatize the topic that's kind of

1847
01:15:42,189 --> 01:15:39,300
odd that's not the reason there's been

1848
01:15:45,050 --> 01:15:42,199
an increase but uh this idea of

1849
01:15:47,630 --> 01:15:45,060
detigmatize uh is important

1850
01:15:51,050 --> 01:15:47,640
one of the chief functions of this

1851
01:15:52,669 --> 01:15:51,060
entire process is to do what you and I

1852
01:15:55,630 --> 01:15:52,679
and all of our colleagues have been

1853
01:15:58,669 --> 01:15:55,640
trying to do for years is

1854
01:16:01,070 --> 01:15:58,679
de-stigmatize the issue because the

1855
01:16:03,709 --> 01:16:01,080
stigma on the issue supported by all

1856
01:16:05,930 --> 01:16:03,719
those wonderful debunkers that we're so

1857
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:05,940
fond of most of which are dead now that

1858
01:16:10,669 --> 01:16:08,159
you know just went out there to Heap the

1859
01:16:13,070 --> 01:16:10,679
ridicule and so forth and undermined it

1860
01:16:16,189 --> 01:16:13,080
has been one of the chief components of

1861
01:16:18,890 --> 01:16:16,199
the truth embargo right the stigma the

1862
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:18,900
stink the stain whatever has helped to

1863
01:16:23,209 --> 01:16:21,120
keep this under control for years

1864
01:16:25,970 --> 01:16:23,219
they're literally saying we're trying to

1865
01:16:27,530 --> 01:16:25,980
destigmatize it God bless them one of

1866
01:16:29,570 --> 01:16:27,540
the reasons that people in this field

1867
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:29,580
because it started in this field the

1868
01:16:35,149 --> 01:16:32,400
government did not do this people our

1869
01:16:37,790 --> 01:16:35,159
colleagues including me have worked to

1870
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:37,800
try to get UFO changed to UAP why

1871
01:16:43,550 --> 01:16:40,800
because they mean the same thing is that

1872
01:16:46,610 --> 01:16:43,560
UFOs got tons of stigma attached to it

1873
01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:46,620
and UAP doesn't and so absent the stigma

1874
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:48,840
you got your your academics and your

1875
01:16:52,850 --> 01:16:50,400
politicians and your members of Congress

1876
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:52,860
and so forth are able to say UAP without

1877
01:16:58,610 --> 01:16:55,380
the stigma it seems like a small thing

1878
01:17:00,590 --> 01:16:58,620
doesn't it it's not small at all if you

1879
01:17:02,270 --> 01:17:00,600
go through all of the reports and all of

1880
01:17:05,689 --> 01:17:02,280
the bills I have word searched them the

1881
01:17:09,229 --> 01:17:05,699
UFO is not in there anywhere nowhere

1882
01:17:10,970 --> 01:17:09,239
okay that is not trivial and so they're

1883
01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:10,980
destigmatizing what does that mean well

1884
01:17:13,970 --> 01:17:12,360
what they're trying to say is that

1885
01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:13,980
because there's less stigma people are

1886
01:17:18,290 --> 01:17:15,719
willing to report it more

1887
01:17:20,090 --> 01:17:18,300
yeah that's probably true well you said

1888
01:17:22,490 --> 01:17:20,100
that that wasn't the case uh that wasn't

1889
01:17:24,290 --> 01:17:22,500
the reason well I mean the reason the

1890
01:17:27,169 --> 01:17:24,300
fundamental reason that reports are

1891
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:27,179
coming forward is because the the lid is

1892
01:17:32,689 --> 01:17:30,239
off uh it's out in the open the the bar

1893
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,699
has come down there and also maybe more

1894
01:17:37,790 --> 01:17:34,560
ET activity

1895
01:17:39,649 --> 01:17:37,800
um and uh so in a way I guess you could

1896
01:17:43,130 --> 01:17:39,659
but it's not so much that the government

1897
01:17:45,229 --> 01:17:43,140
has successfully destigmatized this uh

1898
01:17:46,850 --> 01:17:45,239
the process is moving forward in such a

1899
01:17:49,130 --> 01:17:46,860
way that clearly people are more willing

1900
01:17:50,990 --> 01:17:49,140
to come forward but where this may apply

1901
01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:51,000
and this is something that people are

1902
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:52,860
missing some people are missing

1903
01:17:57,050 --> 01:17:55,440
all of this stuff about reports that are

1904
01:18:00,169 --> 01:17:57,060
turning up in the legislation and in the

1905
01:18:02,330 --> 01:18:00,179
report they get from odni is not about

1906
01:18:03,530 --> 01:18:02,340
all the reports coming in around the

1907
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:03,540
country

1908
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:05,520
to move on and new fork and all that

1909
01:18:09,890 --> 01:18:08,159
other stuff this is only about reports

1910
01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:09,900
coming in through the system

1911
01:18:14,689 --> 01:18:12,840
from people within the government okay

1912
01:18:16,970 --> 01:18:14,699
the stuff that's going to move on it's

1913
01:18:19,370 --> 01:18:16,980
not included here all right and so

1914
01:18:21,290 --> 01:18:19,380
they're far they're far far more than

1915
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:21,300
400 reports that have turned in one way

1916
01:18:26,450 --> 01:18:23,360
or another media new

1917
01:18:28,729 --> 01:18:26,460
fork and and move on they're just

1918
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:28,739
talking about the ones that come in from

1919
01:18:32,290 --> 01:18:30,719
the system from within the military

1920
01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:32,300
intelligence and government Community

1921
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:35,640
now that's important because and I I

1922
01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:38,400
mean no disrespect but

1923
01:18:42,530 --> 01:18:41,040
you take the quality of 400 reports that

1924
01:18:45,410 --> 01:18:42,540
just turned in by the Republic to

1925
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:45,420
various uh UAP organizations and then

1926
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:47,040
you compare that to the quality of

1927
01:18:50,510 --> 01:18:48,239
reports that are coming in from people

1928
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:50,520
within the military Air Force and what

1929
01:18:54,410 --> 01:18:51,600
have you

1930
01:18:56,930 --> 01:18:54,420
the latter is far higher quality

1931
01:18:59,209 --> 01:18:56,940
obviously okay these are far more

1932
01:19:01,130 --> 01:18:59,219
significant reports and that's where

1933
01:19:04,030 --> 01:19:01,140
they're focusing all right so that's

1934
01:19:07,970 --> 01:19:04,040
your sensor data and and and and and and

1935
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:07,980
video footage and as well as you know

1936
01:19:14,030 --> 01:19:10,800
professional eyewitness uh accounts you

1937
01:19:15,470 --> 01:19:14,040
know from uh uh the military I I get

1938
01:19:18,050 --> 01:19:15,480
that part of it you're right it's

1939
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:18,060
completely solid but there is so much

1940
01:19:24,410 --> 01:19:21,600
more like uh let's go with just eyeballs

1941
01:19:25,550 --> 01:19:24,420
from a commercial pilot no no I'm not

1942
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:25,560
saying that those reports I'm just

1943
01:19:30,890 --> 01:19:28,320
saying any any group of 400. Steve this

1944
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:30,900
is a more powerful group and and and and

1945
01:19:34,910 --> 01:19:33,120
I think when you're talking about Steve

1946
01:19:36,189 --> 01:19:34,920
Steve I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm

1947
01:19:39,470 --> 01:19:36,199
sorry

1948
01:19:42,649 --> 01:19:39,480
I was just uh at JFK

1949
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:42,659
that's just there yeah and uh like

1950
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,080
recently recently I was at JFK and uh

1951
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,239
there were four Pilots

1952
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:50,880
standing there in uniform and I just

1953
01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:52,800
stroll right up hey man you guys thanks

1954
01:19:57,649 --> 01:19:54,480
man thanks yeah yeah great great great

1955
01:19:59,270 --> 01:19:57,659
great I said hey I just just a question

1956
01:20:02,209 --> 01:19:59,280
uh really quick

1957
01:20:03,890 --> 01:20:02,219
um you guys ever see a UFO

1958
01:20:05,870 --> 01:20:03,900
and

1959
01:20:08,890 --> 01:20:05,880
yeah I'm gonna go right to left because

1960
01:20:12,649 --> 01:20:08,900
that's the way it was like no

1961
01:20:17,450 --> 01:20:12,659
no and then these two looked at each

1962
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:17,460
other right and then turn to me and said

1963
01:20:34,250 --> 01:20:18,560
no

1964
01:20:36,830 --> 01:20:34,260
um right in a row and so the stigma and

1965
01:20:39,890 --> 01:20:36,840
I think that it is slowly changing but

1966
01:20:42,110 --> 01:20:39,900
this was just a random you know just a

1967
01:20:44,030 --> 01:20:42,120
random sample right to be able to go up

1968
01:20:46,490 --> 01:20:44,040
to four professional Pilots like that

1969
01:20:48,410 --> 01:20:46,500
and just hit him really quick in in a

1970
01:20:50,330 --> 01:20:48,420
very smooth and nice way I wasn't

1971
01:20:51,530 --> 01:20:50,340
offensive at all did they know who you

1972
01:20:53,630 --> 01:20:51,540
were

1973
01:20:56,149 --> 01:20:53,640
um I'm not going to get into that on

1974
01:20:57,649 --> 01:20:56,159
this show I'll talk to uh that's all

1975
01:21:01,610 --> 01:20:57,659
right that's all right that's off the

1976
01:21:05,330 --> 01:21:01,620
air but but yeah and so is it going to

1977
01:21:09,290 --> 01:21:05,340
be the same way with this whistleblower

1978
01:21:12,649 --> 01:21:09,300
part in in the ndaa uh Private Industry

1979
01:21:14,570 --> 01:21:12,659
is one thing but will Pilots start to

1980
01:21:15,950 --> 01:21:14,580
take that serious and especially with

1981
01:21:17,450 --> 01:21:15,960
the Air Force

1982
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:17,460
I'm glad this is a three-hour show

1983
01:21:20,090 --> 01:21:18,480
because actually I'm going to be getting

1984
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,100
into that too this very important area

1985
01:21:25,610 --> 01:21:22,560
it's a two-hour show good hour show oh

1986
01:21:28,430 --> 01:21:25,620
my God okay whoa uh caught me by

1987
01:21:31,370 --> 01:21:28,440
surprise there look uh there is there

1988
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:31,380
there's stigma which has been a critical

1989
01:21:34,910 --> 01:21:33,360
part of the truth embargo and then

1990
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,920
there's self-interest

1991
01:21:38,570 --> 01:21:36,960
and they're not quite the same thing no

1992
01:21:39,530 --> 01:21:38,580
they're not

1993
01:21:41,810 --> 01:21:39,540
um

1994
01:21:43,310 --> 01:21:41,820
a lot of the you know if if I if I

1995
01:21:44,689 --> 01:21:43,320
didn't know you and I was a pilot or I

1996
01:21:46,430 --> 01:21:44,699
thought you were in any way a celebrity

1997
01:21:49,130 --> 01:21:46,440
or journalist or something I'm going to

1998
01:21:51,770 --> 01:21:49,140
say no in other words uh

1999
01:21:53,630 --> 01:21:51,780
I'm not going to discuss this issue or

2000
01:21:55,850 --> 01:21:53,640
say anything that could jeopardize my

2001
01:21:57,950 --> 01:21:55,860
work situation that's that's so critical

2002
01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:57,960
to my life and so it's not a matter of

2003
01:22:01,970 --> 01:21:59,520
stigma it's about a simple logic and

2004
01:22:03,470 --> 01:22:01,980
self-preservation and self-interest so

2005
01:22:07,010 --> 01:22:03,480
both of these things have been operating

2006
01:22:10,370 --> 01:22:07,020
throughout the truth embargo but uh the

2007
01:22:11,930 --> 01:22:10,380
point that I'm making uh is this that

2008
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:11,940
when when you read these reports

2009
01:22:16,189 --> 01:22:13,920
understand that almost everything

2010
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:16,199
is involving reports coming within

2011
01:22:20,630 --> 01:22:18,480
government sources from from our

2012
01:22:22,729 --> 01:22:20,640
services and so forth uh high-level

2013
01:22:24,290 --> 01:22:22,739
people and that there's a lot of rules

2014
01:22:25,550 --> 01:22:24,300
about how this is being done a lot of

2015
01:22:26,570 --> 01:22:25,560
people don't understand the rules that

2016
01:22:28,130 --> 01:22:26,580
are being set up and I'm going to get

2017
01:22:29,090 --> 01:22:28,140
into that

2018
01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:29,100
um

2019
01:22:34,669 --> 01:22:32,040
and so 400 reports

2020
01:22:36,590 --> 01:22:34,679
with a hundred not uh say a hundred not

2021
01:22:38,510 --> 01:22:36,600
accounted for is that's a one very

2022
01:22:40,729 --> 01:22:38,520
significant hundred okay that is a very

2023
01:22:42,830 --> 01:22:40,739
profound Hunter but again

2024
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:42,840
that's that's all part of the process

2025
01:22:47,810 --> 01:22:45,060
all right it doesn't matter whether it's

2026
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:47,820
20 that aren't accounted for or 200 the

2027
01:22:52,010 --> 01:22:49,440
government already knows they're here

2028
01:22:53,689 --> 01:22:52,020
but they are following the process and

2029
01:22:55,910 --> 01:22:53,699
they're trying to tell the truth if we

2030
01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:55,920
got 400 we think 300 were counted for

2031
01:23:01,850 --> 01:22:59,760
100 or not fine that's so good now

2032
01:23:03,470 --> 01:23:01,860
the point I was making here though is

2033
01:23:05,390 --> 01:23:03,480
because

2034
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:05,400
we're referring to reports coming from

2035
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:07,679
government sources

2036
01:23:13,090 --> 01:23:09,840
the stigma issue is a little more

2037
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:13,100
important meaning

2038
01:23:16,910 --> 01:23:15,840
any any de-stigmatization is going to

2039
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:16,920
make it a little easier for somebody

2040
01:23:20,750 --> 01:23:18,480
working within government to step

2041
01:23:22,729 --> 01:23:20,760
forward with a fully legitimate

2042
01:23:24,830 --> 01:23:22,739
statement that is not breaking any ndas

2043
01:23:26,090 --> 01:23:24,840
so I I'm going to go along with that

2044
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,100
the only other thing I want to mention

2045
01:23:30,649 --> 01:23:28,080
about the report before I move on is

2046
01:23:33,709 --> 01:23:30,659
this came up in the appendix

2047
01:23:35,450 --> 01:23:33,719
and in the appendix a it mentions that

2048
01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:35,460
an assessment of any health related

2049
01:23:39,470 --> 01:23:37,320
effects for individuals that have

2050
01:23:40,910 --> 01:23:39,480
encountered unidentified Arrow phenomena

2051
01:23:42,890 --> 01:23:40,920
means referring to that section they

2052
01:23:44,990 --> 01:23:42,900
would address that all right very

2053
01:23:46,930 --> 01:23:45,000
significant why

2054
01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:46,940
big deal

2055
01:23:52,010 --> 01:23:50,760
me

2056
01:23:54,770 --> 01:23:52,020
you know

2057
01:23:56,209 --> 01:23:54,780
if you're seeing a lightness guy 10

2058
01:23:58,490 --> 01:23:56,219
miles away

2059
01:24:00,110 --> 01:23:58,500
not much chance of Health effect

2060
01:24:02,330 --> 01:24:00,120
okay I don't think health effects are

2061
01:24:04,010 --> 01:24:02,340
coming into play there you're probably

2062
01:24:05,689 --> 01:24:04,020
going to have health effects if you get

2063
01:24:08,750 --> 01:24:05,699
really close

2064
01:24:10,010 --> 01:24:08,760
to a craft okay and so but they're

2065
01:24:11,090 --> 01:24:10,020
acknowledging is that there's some

2066
01:24:12,770 --> 01:24:11,100
people that must have gotten pretty

2067
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:12,780
close to those craft and they had health

2068
01:24:19,610 --> 01:24:15,600
effects and so that without saying it

2069
01:24:22,729 --> 01:24:19,620
specifically did you as angry as as I

2070
01:24:26,750 --> 01:24:22,739
was for them to have that in the odni

2071
01:24:28,910 --> 01:24:26,760
report that oh no it's nobody got sick

2072
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:28,920
no health issues to report here nothing

2073
01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:32,400
to see let's move on but yet it is

2074
01:24:40,910 --> 01:24:36,719
specifically addressed in the ndaa that

2075
01:24:44,630 --> 01:24:40,920
this is a concern and health and and and

2076
01:24:47,330 --> 01:24:44,640
contact with uaps is a concern and

2077
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:47,340
anybody that has been affected

2078
01:24:53,149 --> 01:24:50,880
needs to have their health taken care of

2079
01:24:54,410 --> 01:24:53,159
and here's how here's how I avoid being

2080
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:54,420
angry about that there's two different

2081
01:25:00,169 --> 01:24:57,360
things one is the legislation which is

2082
01:25:01,970 --> 01:25:00,179
buried in that act right okay and all

2083
01:25:03,950 --> 01:25:01,980
that funky language and everything that

2084
01:25:04,910 --> 01:25:03,960
it is saying here is what needs to be

2085
01:25:08,090 --> 01:25:04,920
done

2086
01:25:11,689 --> 01:25:08,100
the other is the report coming back to

2087
01:25:13,850 --> 01:25:11,699
Arrow from the entities giving them an

2088
01:25:15,830 --> 01:25:13,860
update of what's going on they're really

2089
01:25:17,390 --> 01:25:15,840
two different things it's much more

2090
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:17,400
important that the health effect issue

2091
01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:19,440
be brought up in the legislation

2092
01:25:24,350 --> 01:25:21,420
it's less important that the ODI

2093
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:24,360
mentioned in a report unless uh they

2094
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:26,880
they one of the entities uh did some

2095
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:28,560
serious investigation and found three

2096
01:25:31,610 --> 01:25:30,000
cases they might mention that in a

2097
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:31,620
future report so I'm not too too upset

2098
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:33,600
about that and the other thing that was

2099
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:36,000
in the in the appendix as we finish up

2100
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:38,880
with the NDA it was an appendix C that

2101
01:25:44,810 --> 01:25:41,520
was covered and this was I noted this

2102
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:44,820
it says transmit this is this section in

2103
01:25:50,030 --> 01:25:47,040
the appendix covers transmedium objects

2104
01:25:51,410 --> 01:25:50,040
or devices objects are what innocent

2105
01:25:53,930 --> 01:25:51,420
definition it's this is the definition

2106
01:25:55,970 --> 01:25:53,940
section what are transmedium objects or

2107
01:25:58,610 --> 01:25:55,980
devices objects are devices that are

2108
01:25:59,930 --> 01:25:58,620
observed to transition between space and

2109
01:26:03,229 --> 01:25:59,940
the atmosphere

2110
01:26:06,649 --> 01:26:03,239
water

2111
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:06,659
that are not immediately identifiable

2112
01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:10,080
now this is important because the moment

2113
01:26:14,510 --> 01:26:12,060
you go and acknowledge that there are

2114
01:26:17,209 --> 01:26:14,520
transmitting a median medium events

2115
01:26:21,110 --> 01:26:17,219
taking place you've just eliminated a

2116
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:21,120
huge swath of other explanations okay

2117
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:23,760
for instance birds are out in terms of

2118
01:26:27,410 --> 01:26:25,920
the space to air thing balloons are out

2119
01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:27,420
with respect to the air to space space

2120
01:26:33,530 --> 01:26:30,480
to air thing and when you go water uh to

2121
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:33,540
uh air to water watering out that limit

2122
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:35,760
so this is this is acknowledging that

2123
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,400
one of the most significant pieces of

2124
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:41,280
evidence we have are sightings of Trends

2125
01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:43,920
medium events so again

2126
01:26:47,330 --> 01:26:45,600
they're not making a big deal out of it

2127
01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:47,340
but they're putting it out there they're

2128
01:26:52,370 --> 01:26:49,620
saying yeah we're aware of that too this

2129
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:52,380
is all part of doing the right thing all

2130
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:54,719
right so when I read that I'm pleased

2131
01:26:58,370 --> 01:26:56,880
others will go well tell us about the

2132
01:27:00,530 --> 01:26:58,380
trans medium events that's post

2133
01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:00,540
disclosure now since we're running I'm

2134
01:27:04,729 --> 01:27:01,920
moving along now

2135
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:04,739
I'm gonna go I'm going into the uh the

2136
01:27:11,169 --> 01:27:07,440
FY 20. by the way that was mostly the

2137
01:27:14,750 --> 01:27:11,179
appendix in the report not the uh ndaa

2138
01:27:17,689 --> 01:27:14,760
no let's still go to the ndaa yet I want

2139
01:27:20,530 --> 01:27:17,699
to specifically go back to the 171

2140
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:20,540
number uh that was there in the report

2141
01:27:28,189 --> 01:27:25,440
and and and in that section where I

2142
01:27:31,550 --> 01:27:28,199
don't have it in front of me but there

2143
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:31,560
was a very important sentence there that

2144
01:27:37,250 --> 01:27:35,120
said some of these uaps exhibit

2145
01:27:40,370 --> 01:27:37,260
extraordinary right it's like

2146
01:27:43,570 --> 01:27:40,380
characteristics right uh uh propulsion

2147
01:27:46,669 --> 01:27:43,580
systems and that

2148
01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:46,679
obviously that that requires further

2149
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:50,880
attention but does that does that set

2150
01:27:56,090 --> 01:27:54,000
off an alarm Bell uh for the rest of the

2151
01:27:58,010 --> 01:27:56,100
world going wait a minute so it's not

2152
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,020
trash bags right it's not weather

2153
01:28:02,510 --> 01:28:00,239
balloons we know that it's not Chinese

2154
01:28:05,209 --> 01:28:02,520
drones we're talking about something

2155
01:28:08,750 --> 01:28:05,219
that pilots and you know military

2156
01:28:10,729 --> 01:28:08,760
Witnesses are going it was nuts man you

2157
01:28:14,030 --> 01:28:10,739
should have seen this thing you know

2158
01:28:17,209 --> 01:28:14,040
because that's what would constitute a

2159
01:28:19,370 --> 01:28:17,219
sentence like that well again the thing

2160
01:28:21,530 --> 01:28:19,380
is you know the alarm Bells is I'm not

2161
01:28:23,450 --> 01:28:21,540
you know not alarm Bells because the

2162
01:28:25,129 --> 01:28:23,460
public has been polled on this issue for

2163
01:28:26,510 --> 01:28:25,139
decades I mean it's been dozens and

2164
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,520
dozens of polls I've got a bunch of them

2165
01:28:30,530 --> 01:28:28,800
listed the public has been on this for a

2166
01:28:32,330 --> 01:28:30,540
long long time so the idea of something

2167
01:28:37,250 --> 01:28:32,340
traveling incredibly fast which would be

2168
01:28:38,870 --> 01:28:37,260
extraordinary uh uh uh uh evidence they

2169
01:28:40,970 --> 01:28:38,880
know that they know that's been in play

2170
01:28:43,729 --> 01:28:40,980
for a long time so that's not scary they

2171
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:43,739
go very fast uh what but you say okay

2172
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:45,120
but they're mentioning it aren't they

2173
01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:48,000
all right look basically if something

2174
01:28:53,570 --> 01:28:51,120
something solid flies by at 15 000 miles

2175
01:28:55,550 --> 01:28:53,580
in the atmosphere it's not human humans

2176
01:28:58,250 --> 01:28:55,560
didn't make it Case Closed over all

2177
01:29:00,890 --> 01:28:58,260
right but we can't do that we can't

2178
01:29:02,990 --> 01:29:00,900
close the case yet we've got to go

2179
01:29:04,850 --> 01:29:03,000
through this process leading to the

2180
01:29:07,310 --> 01:29:04,860
disclosure event which confirms that

2181
01:29:10,189 --> 01:29:07,320
it's extra trust then we move on to get

2182
01:29:11,390 --> 01:29:10,199
into the details so these things are

2183
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:11,400
going to come up and people are saying

2184
01:29:14,450 --> 01:29:12,960
well if you said that why didn't you

2185
01:29:15,890 --> 01:29:14,460
follow it up and they're they're missing

2186
01:29:18,169 --> 01:29:15,900
my key point

2187
01:29:20,750 --> 01:29:18,179
the reason they're saying it

2188
01:29:22,729 --> 01:29:20,760
is because this this they have to go

2189
01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:22,739
through it this way and conduct it this

2190
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:24,960
way to get to where they need to go

2191
01:29:29,930 --> 01:29:27,600
which is the disclosure event

2192
01:29:32,090 --> 01:29:29,940
the confirmation is what opens the door

2193
01:29:34,850 --> 01:29:32,100
to everything else and so they are

2194
01:29:37,129 --> 01:29:34,860
they're always going to hold stay within

2195
01:29:39,890 --> 01:29:37,139
certain boundaries they'll go so far

2196
01:29:42,830 --> 01:29:39,900
they are trying very hard not to

2197
01:29:47,930 --> 01:29:42,840
specifically lie in other words not to

2198
01:29:49,250 --> 01:29:47,940
outright lie uh but to to be relatively

2199
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:49,260
um

2200
01:29:53,629 --> 01:29:51,120
appropriate and honest at what they do

2201
01:29:56,090 --> 01:29:53,639
say and so they are saying things which

2202
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:56,100
are important and and valid they don't

2203
01:29:59,570 --> 01:29:57,840
come to the conclusions that obviously

2204
01:30:01,129 --> 01:29:59,580
they should come to because that's not

2205
01:30:02,090 --> 01:30:01,139
what's happening now and that's for

2206
01:30:04,669 --> 01:30:02,100
later

2207
01:30:05,629 --> 01:30:04,679
again it's it's so complicated I

2208
01:30:07,250 --> 01:30:05,639
understand people are probably a little

2209
01:30:09,709 --> 01:30:07,260
frustrated but

2210
01:30:11,870 --> 01:30:09,719
um just keep it in mind yeah but I don't

2211
01:30:13,490 --> 01:30:11,880
go so far because there's a reason to

2212
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:13,500
why they're doing this yeah but I don't

2213
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:15,600
look at it that way

2214
01:30:21,050 --> 01:30:18,000
um I look at it when you look at a

2215
01:30:25,070 --> 01:30:21,060
number that big 171 and that's a crazy

2216
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,080
freaking big number for six or a year or

2217
01:30:30,110 --> 01:30:27,120
less worth of reports and sightings

2218
01:30:33,229 --> 01:30:30,120
coming in that exhibit this kind of

2219
01:30:36,530 --> 01:30:33,239
stuff you have to uh have a team in

2220
01:30:40,250 --> 01:30:36,540
place of researchers to go in and look

2221
01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:40,260
at that data uh interview uh the pilots

2222
01:30:45,470 --> 01:30:42,780
and the crew members that witnessed this

2223
01:30:47,930 --> 01:30:45,480
and all of that takes time you just

2224
01:30:51,050 --> 01:30:47,940
can't do that kind of uh investigation

2225
01:30:53,930 --> 01:30:51,060
on that many cases in such a short

2226
01:30:56,169 --> 01:30:53,940
period of time that's my point and

2227
01:30:58,490 --> 01:30:56,179
that's why it throws off a red flag

2228
01:31:00,169 --> 01:30:58,500
they're they're accounting for the

2229
01:31:03,709 --> 01:31:00,179
reports that are coming in

2230
01:31:06,350 --> 01:31:03,719
and uh if if they're if they're being

2231
01:31:08,510 --> 01:31:06,360
somewhat fast with it again keep in mind

2232
01:31:10,430 --> 01:31:08,520
they already know that they're non-human

2233
01:31:11,689 --> 01:31:10,440
craft right so they don't need to study

2234
01:31:14,030 --> 01:31:11,699
it too hard

2235
01:31:15,890 --> 01:31:14,040
they already know and so again yeah

2236
01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:15,900
there's a lot of things that logically

2237
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:17,520
you would think they would do that and

2238
01:31:21,770 --> 01:31:19,440
you're going why didn't they and I'm

2239
01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:21,780
trying to get back to my key point is

2240
01:31:25,970 --> 01:31:24,000
the reason that they don't do it that

2241
01:31:28,610 --> 01:31:25,980
way is because that's not what this is

2242
01:31:30,890 --> 01:31:28,620
about this is not an effort to find out

2243
01:31:33,890 --> 01:31:30,900
what this stuff is they already know

2244
01:31:37,070 --> 01:31:33,900
this is a process that they're going to

2245
01:31:39,470 --> 01:31:37,080
go through in order to get to hearings

2246
01:31:41,930 --> 01:31:39,480
and the proper procedures that will set

2247
01:31:43,970 --> 01:31:41,940
the stage for disclosure now I know this

2248
01:31:47,390 --> 01:31:43,980
is for some a little bit hard to grasp

2249
01:31:49,430 --> 01:31:47,400
but what can I say one one look at this

2250
01:31:51,169 --> 01:31:49,440
one the simplest way to get to where I'm

2251
01:31:53,450 --> 01:31:51,179
at is simply go read the witness to

2252
01:31:55,850 --> 01:31:53,460
Disclosure by Carrie and Schmidt it's an

2253
01:31:58,910 --> 01:31:55,860
absolute Case Closed book Roswell

2254
01:32:01,610 --> 01:31:58,920
absolutely was what it was so again once

2255
01:32:03,770 --> 01:32:01,620
you know and and understand that Roswell

2256
01:32:06,709 --> 01:32:03,780
was in fact what it was a crashed ET

2257
01:32:09,290 --> 01:32:06,719
vehicle with bodies then you know that

2258
01:32:11,390 --> 01:32:09,300
the government's known since 47. case

2259
01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:11,400
closed on that so once you're there then

2260
01:32:16,430 --> 01:32:12,960
you can say okay if they've known since

2261
01:32:17,930 --> 01:32:16,440
47 how do I view what's going on now

2262
01:32:20,689 --> 01:32:17,940
with all of this activity and

2263
01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:20,699
legislation and and actions by the dod

2264
01:32:26,570 --> 01:32:23,760
how do I view it in that context

2265
01:32:28,610 --> 01:32:26,580
right and I'm trying to help in that

2266
01:32:31,070 --> 01:32:28,620
regard and it's it's easy not easy and I

2267
01:32:33,950 --> 01:32:31,080
know I'm confusing some people your

2268
01:32:37,970 --> 01:32:33,960
point is well taken Steve the um the

2269
01:32:41,149 --> 01:32:37,980
trash let's move on to the ndaa but uh

2270
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:41,159
the trash bag uh comment and Airborne

2271
01:32:49,310 --> 01:32:45,600
debris my only uh I could you know it's

2272
01:32:54,590 --> 01:32:49,320
nothing for me but what raises a concern

2273
01:32:58,669 --> 01:32:54,600
is how does that rise to the level of

2274
01:33:00,530 --> 01:32:58,679
UAP and worthy of submitting a report if

2275
01:33:04,310 --> 01:33:00,540
you know what to try if it's attractive

2276
01:33:06,890 --> 01:33:04,320
you know if that's what it is then how

2277
01:33:09,290 --> 01:33:06,900
why WI-Fi all that report what's the

2278
01:33:10,910 --> 01:33:09,300
question no no I think you look the the

2279
01:33:12,890 --> 01:33:10,920
reports

2280
01:33:14,450 --> 01:33:12,900
people people within the government

2281
01:33:16,669 --> 01:33:14,460
people within the military intelligence

2282
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:16,679
complex are military services are

2283
01:33:19,550 --> 01:33:18,000
reporting something they see and

2284
01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:19,560
couldn't understand

2285
01:33:22,370 --> 01:33:21,120
in other words they sought they didn't

2286
01:33:23,570 --> 01:33:22,380
know it was a trash bag if they knew it

2287
01:33:25,610 --> 01:33:23,580
was a trash bag they wouldn't report it

2288
01:33:27,050 --> 01:33:25,620
so reporting it and they're taking

2289
01:33:28,669 --> 01:33:27,060
whatever they're getting they're not

2290
01:33:29,810 --> 01:33:28,679
saying look unless you're really sure or

2291
01:33:31,010 --> 01:33:29,820
you know whatever it's really weird

2292
01:33:33,290 --> 01:33:31,020
don't come see it look if it's

2293
01:33:34,910 --> 01:33:33,300
unidentified and it's in our space and

2294
01:33:36,770 --> 01:33:34,920
it's near our ships whatever report it

2295
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:36,780
and then they do a quick analysis and

2296
01:33:41,090 --> 01:33:38,880
discover it's a trash pack okay and to

2297
01:33:42,890 --> 01:33:41,100
their credit they report that and to

2298
01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:42,900
their credit they also report that we

2299
01:33:46,850 --> 01:33:44,880
have no idea what the hell this one was

2300
01:33:49,129 --> 01:33:46,860
remember Project Blue Book was a

2301
01:33:50,450 --> 01:33:49,139
whitewash the whole thing was a total

2302
01:33:52,490 --> 01:33:50,460
whitewash to try to get the government

2303
01:33:53,810 --> 01:33:52,500
out from under it and after all the

2304
01:33:55,550 --> 01:33:53,820
stuff they went through to whitewash it

2305
01:33:57,290 --> 01:33:55,560
they still came up with 701 reports they

2306
01:33:58,729 --> 01:33:57,300
couldn't account for yeah that's true

2307
01:34:01,310 --> 01:33:58,739
that's true but

2308
01:34:07,790 --> 01:34:01,320
um what what the point that I'm making

2309
01:34:10,310 --> 01:34:07,800
here is that uh a trash bag is I I I'm

2310
01:34:13,310 --> 01:34:10,320
not wrong a trash bag is not going to

2311
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:13,320
turn up as a trash bag in sensor data

2312
01:34:17,629 --> 01:34:15,600
it's going to be a trash bag because of

2313
01:34:19,070 --> 01:34:17,639
what they saw oh some of the reports are

2314
01:34:20,570 --> 01:34:19,080
visual that some of them are approaches

2315
01:34:23,270 --> 01:34:20,580
spatial visual sightings that's right

2316
01:34:28,490 --> 01:34:23,280
guys see something so why is why are

2317
01:34:31,729 --> 01:34:28,500
trash bags getting into this report it's

2318
01:34:35,570 --> 01:34:31,739
not because of a flear picked up a trash

2319
01:34:38,450 --> 01:34:35,580
bag and radar uh kicked off and they

2320
01:34:40,250 --> 01:34:38,460
scrambled Jets and this was no that's

2321
01:34:42,110 --> 01:34:40,260
not and they had to go figure out that

2322
01:34:44,030 --> 01:34:42,120
it was a trash bag I don't think that's

2323
01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:44,040
the case I don't know how they arrived

2324
01:34:47,390 --> 01:34:45,600
at that Jimmy but I think they're just

2325
01:34:49,790 --> 01:34:47,400
actually I applaud them what they're

2326
01:34:51,709 --> 01:34:49,800
doing they're saying look we want

2327
01:34:53,570 --> 01:34:51,719
reports we are going to look at these

2328
01:34:55,790 --> 01:34:53,580
reports and and we're going to provide

2329
01:34:57,290 --> 01:34:55,800
information about what we find and so

2330
01:34:58,550 --> 01:34:57,300
the reports come in they look at them

2331
01:35:01,370 --> 01:34:58,560
and if one of them turns out to be a

2332
01:35:02,810 --> 01:35:01,380
trash bag they they say that all right

2333
01:35:06,050 --> 01:35:02,820
in other words they're telling the truth

2334
01:35:09,649 --> 01:35:06,060
now one could say how could some guy on

2335
01:35:11,390 --> 01:35:09,659
a ship mistake that I I don't know but

2336
01:35:14,030 --> 01:35:11,400
I don't think it's an attempt to

2337
01:35:16,010 --> 01:35:14,040
undermine the fundamental process people

2338
01:35:18,290 --> 01:35:16,020
say well it's a trash bag well look how

2339
01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:18,300
silly this is no because of the ones

2340
01:35:22,610 --> 01:35:20,639
they can't identify remember they're

2341
01:35:24,350 --> 01:35:22,620
coming in for military people high level

2342
01:35:26,810 --> 01:35:24,360
people that can that know what they're

2343
01:35:28,970 --> 01:35:26,820
looking at and they're unable to figure

2344
01:35:30,410 --> 01:35:28,980
it out so the core message is look

2345
01:35:32,570 --> 01:35:30,420
there's plenty out there we can't

2346
01:35:34,610 --> 01:35:32,580
explain which pretty much confirms what

2347
01:35:36,649 --> 01:35:34,620
we already know yeah there's there's

2348
01:35:38,330 --> 01:35:36,659
non-human craft here

2349
01:35:40,430 --> 01:35:38,340
I'm sure that a lot of them would like

2350
01:35:41,870 --> 01:35:40,440
to get it over with tomorrow and just

2351
01:35:43,970 --> 01:35:41,880
suddenly put out a press release and say

2352
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:43,980
enough enough with this yeah it's it's

2353
01:35:48,830 --> 01:35:46,560
there's non-human craft uh we need to

2354
01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:48,840
get the details to you but they can't

2355
01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:51,840
this is a hugely political

2356
01:35:57,050 --> 01:35:54,840
process there's so much at stake it's

2357
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:57,060
got to be done right and the sooner it's

2358
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:58,800
done the better for them as well now

2359
01:36:02,330 --> 01:36:00,480
along those lines some of the things

2360
01:36:04,669 --> 01:36:02,340
just it's just a list of just some of

2361
01:36:06,890 --> 01:36:04,679
the things that have happened recently

2362
01:36:08,990 --> 01:36:06,900
first of all Christopher Mellon puts out

2363
01:36:10,490 --> 01:36:09,000
and I've got that I've got that up here

2364
01:36:13,370 --> 01:36:10,500
too Christopher Mellon puts out this

2365
01:36:16,129 --> 01:36:13,380
extraordinary statement uh on his

2366
01:36:19,129 --> 01:36:16,139
website yeah it's at fifteen thousand

2367
01:36:21,530 --> 01:36:19,139
words it was half of it was like War and

2368
01:36:22,910 --> 01:36:21,540
Peace you're talking about setting the

2369
01:36:26,030 --> 01:36:22,920
record straight it's kind of it's a

2370
01:36:27,470 --> 01:36:26,040
Manifesto of intent he he he's given the

2371
01:36:28,669 --> 01:36:27,480
excuse to write it because of those

2372
01:36:29,870 --> 01:36:28,679
articles that turned up in the Wall

2373
01:36:33,169 --> 01:36:29,880
Street Journal in the New York Times

2374
01:36:36,770 --> 01:36:33,179
this gentleman by the name of uh of uh

2375
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:36,780
uh Holman W Jenkins Jr who was on the

2376
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:38,040
editorial board of the Wall Street

2377
01:36:42,410 --> 01:36:40,320
Journal puts out two hit pieces you know

2378
01:36:44,689 --> 01:36:42,420
it's like hey man [\h__\h] nonsense all

2379
01:36:46,129 --> 01:36:44,699
right and now he is on the editorial

2380
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:46,139
board but his columns are about business

2381
01:36:50,810 --> 01:36:48,480
whatever these these articles are not

2382
01:36:51,950 --> 01:36:50,820
going to wear well but then Julian

2383
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:51,960
Barnes who was like the National

2384
01:36:55,790 --> 01:36:53,760
Security guy for the New York Times he

2385
01:36:56,750 --> 01:36:55,800
writes a piece that's kind of very much

2386
01:36:59,689 --> 01:36:56,760
critical

2387
01:37:03,350 --> 01:36:59,699
okay look why those got written I don't

2388
01:37:04,490 --> 01:37:03,360
know uh I do know this that when you're

2389
01:37:06,770 --> 01:37:04,500
talking about journalists at the high

2390
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:06,780
level they all have their own sources

2391
01:37:10,970 --> 01:37:08,639
in other words and they don't they're

2392
01:37:12,649 --> 01:37:10,980
all the same sources and so one has

2393
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:12,659
certain sources within the dod other

2394
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:14,639
have other sources some within the Air

2395
01:37:18,770 --> 01:37:16,800
Force and what have you and they're off

2396
01:37:19,850 --> 01:37:18,780
the Record by and large but they're

2397
01:37:21,890 --> 01:37:19,860
known and they're they're already

2398
01:37:23,689 --> 01:37:21,900
reported to the editor so they will talk

2399
01:37:27,110 --> 01:37:23,699
about them they will say unknown source

2400
01:37:29,209 --> 01:37:27,120
said this and so it's not surprising if

2401
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:29,219
there are some sources within the dod

2402
01:37:32,510 --> 01:37:30,719
that are not happy about this process

2403
01:37:34,370 --> 01:37:32,520
and they want to throw a little water on

2404
01:37:35,689 --> 01:37:34,380
it so they contact their their favorite

2405
01:37:38,570 --> 01:37:35,699
journalists in New York Times and Report

2406
01:37:41,629 --> 01:37:38,580
some stuff and that person treats it as

2407
01:37:44,090 --> 01:37:41,639
valid and writes it up it's also also

2408
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,100
possible and I wouldn't rule this out

2409
01:37:47,390 --> 01:37:46,320
that some of these major papers like the

2410
01:37:48,890 --> 01:37:47,400
Wall Street Journal and New York Times

2411
01:37:51,290 --> 01:37:48,900
Washington Post typically New York Times

2412
01:37:53,330 --> 01:37:51,300
have a problem in other words they're

2413
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:53,340
saying you know look we're writing all

2414
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:54,719
these articles we're covering it like

2415
01:37:58,850 --> 01:37:56,880
crazy most of them are without any

2416
01:38:01,010 --> 01:37:58,860
skepticism it's going to start looking

2417
01:38:02,510 --> 01:38:01,020
like we're on the disclosure train you

2418
01:38:04,669 --> 01:38:02,520
know we got on board with with a free

2419
01:38:07,610 --> 01:38:04,679
ticket we're in the we're in the uh the

2420
01:38:09,649 --> 01:38:07,620
VIP car shipping champagne somebody

2421
01:38:11,330 --> 01:38:09,659
write something negative for God's sakes

2422
01:38:14,750 --> 01:38:11,340
right so we don't look like we're we're

2423
01:38:16,070 --> 01:38:14,760
you know uh you know in in the deal uh

2424
01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:16,080
and that could be that could be the

2425
01:38:26,570 --> 01:38:24,229
I don't know I'm simply saying that

2426
01:38:29,090 --> 01:38:26,580
these gave Christopher Mellon the excuse

2427
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:29,100
to write this really fantastic wrote a

2428
01:38:33,110 --> 01:38:30,960
great piece he wrote a great piece and

2429
01:38:36,649 --> 01:38:33,120
it turns out to see here's the thing now

2430
01:38:38,990 --> 01:38:36,659
now we have hindsight uh I think that we

2431
01:38:42,770 --> 01:38:39,000
all felt that Julian Barnes piece was an

2432
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:42,780
opinion piece and and uh unnamed sword

2433
01:38:46,850 --> 01:38:44,639
and this and that he had some kind of

2434
01:38:49,610 --> 01:38:46,860
inside track and it turned out he was

2435
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:49,620
completely wrong and and that doesn't

2436
01:38:52,910 --> 01:38:51,600
mean he didn't have an inside track it

2437
01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:52,920
just means he might have been given bad

2438
01:38:56,629 --> 01:38:54,719
information by his sources which he

2439
01:38:58,930 --> 01:38:56,639
trusts

2440
01:39:01,550 --> 01:38:58,940
yeah but maybe not

2441
01:39:03,709 --> 01:39:01,560
I'm just just happy he was wrong because

2442
01:39:04,970 --> 01:39:03,719
the the piece itself was an opinion

2443
01:39:08,209 --> 01:39:04,980
piece and it should have never been

2444
01:39:09,770 --> 01:39:08,219
published and and and now I hope he

2445
01:39:11,629 --> 01:39:09,780
never writes another piece like this

2446
01:39:12,890 --> 01:39:11,639
again I really encourage people to read

2447
01:39:15,050 --> 01:39:12,900
this statement it's on Christopher

2448
01:39:16,970 --> 01:39:15,060
melon's site christophermelon.net it's

2449
01:39:20,570 --> 01:39:16,980
also linked on my website it's linked on

2450
01:39:23,090 --> 01:39:20,580
my my social media because

2451
01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:23,100
he doesn't just do a rebuttal he goes

2452
01:39:26,510 --> 01:39:24,719
through a history of what's happened

2453
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,520
since the two of the Stars Academy come

2454
01:39:30,770 --> 01:39:28,800
out it's like him saying hey folks let's

2455
01:39:33,050 --> 01:39:30,780
let's don't forget this is what has

2456
01:39:36,770 --> 01:39:33,060
happened now remember Christopher melon

2457
01:39:38,450 --> 01:39:36,780
in my you is the central figure to all

2458
01:39:40,189 --> 01:39:38,460
that's going on meaning if you want to

2459
01:39:41,209 --> 01:39:40,199
take all the various elements and

2460
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:41,219
entities

2461
01:39:44,990 --> 01:39:42,960
and you want to look into that Center

2462
01:39:47,330 --> 01:39:45,000
you're going to see Christopher Mellon

2463
01:39:49,070 --> 01:39:47,340
there was a time and a much different

2464
01:39:51,530 --> 01:39:49,080
time when things were nothing like they

2465
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:51,540
are now when I would have said the

2466
01:39:54,830 --> 01:39:53,280
central figure going on to whatever the

2467
01:39:57,950 --> 01:39:54,840
hell's happening within government and

2468
01:39:59,390 --> 01:39:57,960
politics was John podesta okay but that

2469
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:59,400
was a different time

2470
01:40:03,649 --> 01:40:01,440
Christopher melon has taken it way past

2471
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:03,659
that and when I say Central I mean

2472
01:40:06,590 --> 01:40:04,800
Central

2473
01:40:08,090 --> 01:40:06,600
he's the one that's been going up on the

2474
01:40:10,250 --> 01:40:08,100
hill he's starting off the hill back in

2475
01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:10,260
I think 1819 he's had tons of meetings

2476
01:40:13,490 --> 01:40:11,760
up there he's helping to orchestrate

2477
01:40:15,709 --> 01:40:13,500
what's happening on the hill he's kind

2478
01:40:17,629 --> 01:40:15,719
of like a consultant in that regard and

2479
01:40:20,270 --> 01:40:17,639
so he has literally been key to the

2480
01:40:22,310 --> 01:40:20,280
process going forward and so when he

2481
01:40:23,689 --> 01:40:22,320
writes this summary piece he's saying

2482
01:40:25,790 --> 01:40:23,699
look folks

2483
01:40:27,530 --> 01:40:25,800
look how far we've come look what's

2484
01:40:29,209 --> 01:40:27,540
going on here so this piece is that

2485
01:40:31,189 --> 01:40:29,219
article in the paper is ridiculous but

2486
01:40:33,229 --> 01:40:31,199
I'm also going to remind you of where we

2487
01:40:35,090 --> 01:40:33,239
are right now which is very very far

2488
01:40:39,770 --> 01:40:35,100
along now here's where it gets

2489
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:39,780
interesting just a couple days later

2490
01:40:45,229 --> 01:40:42,719
is when Robert Salas Captain Robert

2491
01:40:47,570 --> 01:40:45,239
Salas one of the principal witnesses to

2492
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:47,580
nuclear weapons tampering

2493
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:49,679
sends out a tweet and says uh I've been

2494
01:40:53,570 --> 01:40:51,360
contacted to come in be interviewed by

2495
01:40:55,970 --> 01:40:53,580
arrow and I've been asked to contact

2496
01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:55,980
some of the other Witnesses

2497
01:41:00,770 --> 01:40:58,560
now think about those things happening

2498
01:41:02,510 --> 01:41:00,780
virtually together

2499
01:41:04,850 --> 01:41:02,520
you don't

2500
01:41:07,390 --> 01:41:04,860
if you're Arrow you do not bring in Bob

2501
01:41:10,129 --> 01:41:07,400
Salas to interview except for one reason

2502
01:41:12,610 --> 01:41:10,139
you are getting prepared for him to

2503
01:41:15,470 --> 01:41:12,620
testify before Congress

2504
01:41:16,970 --> 01:41:15,480
the way it works is and not people don't

2505
01:41:18,830 --> 01:41:16,980
know this but before any of those

2506
01:41:20,930 --> 01:41:18,840
Witnesses sit down on under oath in that

2507
01:41:22,310 --> 01:41:20,940
chair with cameras on and millions of

2508
01:41:23,810 --> 01:41:22,320
people watching they're going to be

2509
01:41:25,129 --> 01:41:23,820
interviewed by the dod or the

2510
01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:25,139
appropriate entity they're going to be

2511
01:41:28,970 --> 01:41:26,639
interviewed by some of the committee

2512
01:41:31,070 --> 01:41:28,980
staff so that they know what they're

2513
01:41:32,990 --> 01:41:31,080
generally going to say so that they can

2514
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:33,000
shape the questions they're going to ask

2515
01:41:37,550 --> 01:41:36,000
not to influence them not to undermine

2516
01:41:40,729 --> 01:41:37,560
them but rather you know you just don't

2517
01:41:42,530 --> 01:41:40,739
fly this thing blind so it will improve

2518
01:41:43,970 --> 01:41:42,540
the questions but be assured once those

2519
01:41:45,530 --> 01:41:43,980
Witnesses sit down on the road they can

2520
01:41:46,850 --> 01:41:45,540
say whatever the hell they want so if

2521
01:41:47,689 --> 01:41:46,860
they're asked a question they decide hey

2522
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:47,699
I'm going to tell you about what

2523
01:41:52,250 --> 01:41:50,159
happened no that can happen but this is

2524
01:41:54,109 --> 01:41:52,260
the process and so basically the

2525
01:41:56,330 --> 01:41:54,119
interview process is underway then then

2526
01:41:58,609 --> 01:41:56,340
a few days later Kevin Day indicates

2527
01:42:00,770 --> 01:41:58,619
that apparently he's preparing to

2528
01:42:02,390 --> 01:42:00,780
testify and if they've contacted Kevin

2529
01:42:04,970 --> 01:42:02,400
Day they've probably contacted fraver

2530
01:42:07,070 --> 01:42:04,980
Graves and teacher and who knows what

2531
01:42:09,890 --> 01:42:07,080
else and so what are we hearing here

2532
01:42:11,689 --> 01:42:09,900
melon is gearing up he just gave you a

2533
01:42:14,330 --> 01:42:11,699
review Witnesses are being interviewed

2534
01:42:15,770 --> 01:42:14,340
by Arrow all right hearings are in the

2535
01:42:17,870 --> 01:42:15,780
process there have been other statements

2536
01:42:20,270 --> 01:42:17,880
that have been made all right and so

2537
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:20,280
hearings are coming they will be in the

2538
01:42:25,129 --> 01:42:21,840
Senate they will almost certainly be the

2539
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:25,139
Senate Intel committee and that's how

2540
01:42:30,350 --> 01:42:28,560
far we've gone so that happened okay now

2541
01:42:31,609 --> 01:42:30,360
something else that's been happening

2542
01:42:33,229 --> 01:42:31,619
lately which I have to talk about

2543
01:42:35,689 --> 01:42:33,239
because it's cool

2544
01:42:38,570 --> 01:42:35,699
is that of all the people that have been

2545
01:42:39,890 --> 01:42:38,580
hearing about this issue in Congress

2546
01:42:42,649 --> 01:42:39,900
scores of them have been gotten

2547
01:42:44,270 --> 01:42:42,659
briefings right classified briefings

2548
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:44,280
remember this report that just came out

2549
01:42:49,550 --> 01:42:46,320
had a classified version and that's

2550
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:49,560
where the real action is okay

2551
01:42:52,910 --> 01:42:51,119
about there's about eight or nine

2552
01:42:55,129 --> 01:42:52,920
members of Congress now that have

2553
01:42:56,930 --> 01:42:55,139
actually gone and made statements to

2554
01:42:59,870 --> 01:42:56,940
press and have been written up

2555
01:43:01,490 --> 01:42:59,880
one of them though is not one of those

2556
01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:01,500
that are getting these heavy briefings

2557
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:04,320
he's on some important committees but

2558
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:06,560
not the ones that are in play here right

2559
01:43:12,890 --> 01:43:09,600
he's he's a Tennessee Conservative

2560
01:43:14,330 --> 01:43:12,900
Republican he's what in the I think I

2561
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:14,340
would say I don't think it's an insult

2562
01:43:19,490 --> 01:43:16,080
is what in Britain they refer to some of

2563
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:19,500
the MPS as backventures okay but no he's

2564
01:43:25,550 --> 01:43:21,840
a he's a he's a congressman and he's

2565
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:25,560
into this issue and so he is the most

2566
01:43:30,530 --> 01:43:28,560
outspoken of all of them probably

2567
01:43:32,510 --> 01:43:30,540
because he's not really part of the

2568
01:43:33,950 --> 01:43:32,520
process that I'm referring to he's

2569
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:33,960
sitting out there but he sees what's

2570
01:43:39,350 --> 01:43:36,000
going on and he says I'm going to speak

2571
01:43:41,629 --> 01:43:39,360
up his name is Tim burchett and boy is

2572
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:41,639
he speaking up

2573
01:43:46,669 --> 01:43:44,880
he first of all he spoke out on the ET

2574
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:46,679
issue before the first hearing it was

2575
01:43:50,689 --> 01:43:48,960
held by Carson right back in may he

2576
01:43:52,370 --> 01:43:50,699
speaks out very aggressively then he

2577
01:43:53,870 --> 01:43:52,380
goes to the hearing makes sure the Press

2578
01:43:55,550 --> 01:43:53,880
sees him there and after the Ring's over

2579
01:43:57,530 --> 01:43:55,560
he starts giving interviews to the Press

2580
01:43:59,330 --> 01:43:57,540
since then he's been on Tucker he's been

2581
01:44:01,669 --> 01:43:59,340
on these shows and he keeps saying the

2582
01:44:03,470 --> 01:44:01,679
Extraterrestrial presence is real okay

2583
01:44:05,090 --> 01:44:03,480
there's et's here he's doing a Bob

2584
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:05,100
Bigelow all he's doing it every three

2585
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:07,440
months so recently he just turned up

2586
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,159
again

2587
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:10,800
right let me just go into this Timber

2588
01:44:15,229 --> 01:44:12,719
shed is turned up and and he's and it's

2589
01:44:16,970 --> 01:44:15,239
been several media that's covered him

2590
01:44:19,010 --> 01:44:16,980
and this is what he's saying now he says

2591
01:44:21,410 --> 01:44:19,020
the U.S UF government is covering up the

2592
01:44:23,209 --> 01:44:21,420
truth about unidentified flying objects

2593
01:44:25,250 --> 01:44:23,219
he told newsmac and several other

2594
01:44:26,930 --> 01:44:25,260
entities and then he goes in first

2595
01:44:28,250 --> 01:44:26,940
chapter of Ezekiel it pretty much

2596
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:28,260
described what you would call a modern

2597
01:44:32,510 --> 01:44:31,199
day UFO he says he's a religious God he

2598
01:44:34,370 --> 01:44:32,520
says you look at all the organized

2599
01:44:36,169 --> 01:44:34,380
religions that we recognize in the world

2600
01:44:38,090 --> 01:44:36,179
today from the Muslims the Hindus they

2601
01:44:40,910 --> 01:44:38,100
describe something we would consider a

2602
01:44:43,490 --> 01:44:40,920
UFO I think they're hiding former crash

2603
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:43,500
sites he said you should go back to Ross

2604
01:44:48,590 --> 01:44:45,840
from Mexico in 1947 there was a craft

2605
01:44:51,290 --> 01:44:48,600
two crafts apparently crashed I've been

2606
01:44:55,070 --> 01:44:51,300
told there was a mid-air Collision

2607
01:44:57,169 --> 01:44:55,080
and then he goes on he says the the uh

2608
01:44:59,689 --> 01:44:57,179
I'm sorry okay so when the headlines

2609
01:45:01,490 --> 01:44:59,699
saucer recovered across the country the

2610
01:45:03,050 --> 01:45:01,500
next day they said oh wait no it was a

2611
01:45:04,370 --> 01:45:03,060
weather balloon and that's just totally

2612
01:45:07,609 --> 01:45:04,380
bogus

2613
01:45:09,169 --> 01:45:07,619
10 Merced is like

2614
01:45:10,790 --> 01:45:09,179
he's like the person that goes to that

2615
01:45:12,530 --> 01:45:10,800
meeting you know the stockholders

2616
01:45:14,570 --> 01:45:12,540
meeting and stands up and starts telling

2617
01:45:16,970 --> 01:45:14,580
you know the the guys that have the most

2618
01:45:20,450 --> 01:45:16,980
stocks what the hell is going on

2619
01:45:22,970 --> 01:45:20,460
this is this is interesting right Timber

2620
01:45:24,109 --> 01:45:22,980
set is telling the truth he's saying it

2621
01:45:26,270 --> 01:45:24,119
flat out

2622
01:45:28,250 --> 01:45:26,280
whether he got any classified briefings

2623
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:28,260
does it matter he probably got some

2624
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:29,760
information from those that did get the

2625
01:45:34,250 --> 01:45:32,639
blessed by briefings and he is stepping

2626
01:45:36,109 --> 01:45:34,260
up

2627
01:45:37,970 --> 01:45:36,119
and you know what's happening nothing

2628
01:45:39,470 --> 01:45:37,980
now what do I mean by that is Tim

2629
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:39,480
getting greased is he getting attacked

2630
01:45:43,550 --> 01:45:41,520
no not at all hasn't affected

2631
01:45:45,709 --> 01:45:43,560
politically at all you know one one

2632
01:45:47,330 --> 01:45:45,719
other thing he said that you left out

2633
01:45:50,930 --> 01:45:47,340
there

2634
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:50,940
um is he said this is an elected

2635
01:45:56,090 --> 01:45:54,480
representative right he said I don't

2636
01:45:58,189 --> 01:45:56,100
trust the government

2637
01:46:01,729 --> 01:45:58,199
right it's it's right in the middle of

2638
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:01,739
that line and uh I thought that that was

2639
01:46:07,250 --> 01:46:04,560
uh an extraordinary thing and when he

2640
01:46:08,590 --> 01:46:07,260
after the UFO hearing

2641
01:46:11,810 --> 01:46:08,600
um when he got in front of the camera

2642
01:46:15,649 --> 01:46:11,820
and and and let loose

2643
01:46:17,870 --> 01:46:15,659
he had said he called the hearing a sham

2644
01:46:19,850 --> 01:46:17,880
because it it didn't seem to go anywhere

2645
01:46:23,410 --> 01:46:19,860
right he's not he's not on to the

2646
01:46:26,450 --> 01:46:23,420
process but I get it yeah yeah yeah

2647
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:26,460
he's upset What's Happening Here

2648
01:46:31,310 --> 01:46:30,239
Rubio and Warner Carson Gallego all

2649
01:46:32,750 --> 01:46:31,320
these people are coming out and doing

2650
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:32,760
this and putting legislation in what's

2651
01:46:37,430 --> 01:46:35,520
the political consequences nothing all

2652
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:37,440
right Burchette really going to town

2653
01:46:41,390 --> 01:46:40,080
consequences politically nothing right

2654
01:46:43,129 --> 01:46:41,400
we're set to Republican you've got

2655
01:46:44,990 --> 01:46:43,139
Republicans a Democrat

2656
01:46:48,530 --> 01:46:45,000
they fully established this thing as a

2657
01:46:50,090 --> 01:46:48,540
nonpartisan issue it's safe and more and

2658
01:46:52,910 --> 01:46:50,100
more members of Congress are going to

2659
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:52,920
decide you know it's safe look at

2660
01:46:55,850 --> 01:46:54,000
Burchette

2661
01:46:57,890 --> 01:46:55,860
I don't I don't want to I'm not a potted

2662
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:57,900
plant here this is going to be huge

2663
01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:59,040
they're going to start you're going to

2664
01:47:03,050 --> 01:47:00,239
see more of them coming forward and

2665
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:03,060
speaking so when people say look this

2666
01:47:06,590 --> 01:47:04,320
thing is all going to die out they're

2667
01:47:09,830 --> 01:47:06,600
going to stretch it out no no no this is

2668
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:09,840
a this is this is this is a raging fire

2669
01:47:13,490 --> 01:47:12,000
it is moving forward it cannot be

2670
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:13,500
stopped so that's what I want to make

2671
01:47:16,970 --> 01:47:15,119
the point now I want to get into the NDA

2672
01:47:19,550 --> 01:47:16,980
because there's two things here that are

2673
01:47:22,970 --> 01:47:19,560
extremely critical this is serious in

2674
01:47:24,590 --> 01:47:22,980
the NDA of 2023 that assuming you can

2675
01:47:27,649 --> 01:47:24,600
read it and I'll tell you it's not easy

2676
01:47:30,910 --> 01:47:27,659
because we're talking legislative speak

2677
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:30,920
and one of them involves

2678
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:33,600
ndas right and National Defense

2679
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:36,000
appropriation act one of them involves

2680
01:47:42,649 --> 01:47:39,360
ndas let me read this to you this is a

2681
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:42,659
big deal all right in case people miss

2682
01:47:46,970 --> 01:47:45,119
it okay hang on

2683
01:47:48,530 --> 01:47:46,980
uh

2684
01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:48,540
okay

2685
01:47:56,090 --> 01:47:53,040
it's called non-disclosure agreements

2686
01:47:58,010 --> 01:47:56,100
now I invite you to listen carefully

2687
01:47:59,390 --> 01:47:58,020
the Secretary of Defense the Director of

2688
01:48:00,830 --> 01:47:59,400
National Intelligence the two people

2689
01:48:02,510 --> 01:48:00,840
that are running this

2690
01:48:04,010 --> 01:48:02,520
are overseeing the Secretary of Homeland

2691
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:04,020
Security the heads of such other

2692
01:48:07,370 --> 01:48:05,520
departments and agencies of the federal

2693
01:48:09,649 --> 01:48:07,380
government that have supported

2694
01:48:11,870 --> 01:48:09,659
investigations of the types of events

2695
01:48:15,050 --> 01:48:11,880
covered by subparagraph a meaning at any

2696
01:48:16,669 --> 01:48:15,060
time in the past of subsection A1 and

2697
01:48:20,030 --> 01:48:16,679
activities and programs described in

2698
01:48:22,910 --> 01:48:20,040
some paragraph B of such

2699
01:48:25,070 --> 01:48:22,920
um of such subsection and contractors of

2700
01:48:26,870 --> 01:48:25,080
the federal government that have

2701
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:26,880
um supported or supporting such

2702
01:48:31,810 --> 01:48:29,600
activities and programs

2703
01:48:35,209 --> 01:48:31,820
shall conduct

2704
01:48:38,030 --> 01:48:35,219
comprehensive searches of all records

2705
01:48:39,890 --> 01:48:38,040
relating to non-disclosure orders

2706
01:48:41,090 --> 01:48:39,900
relating to the types of events

2707
01:48:44,270 --> 01:48:41,100
described

2708
01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:44,280
uh in subsection a in other words all

2709
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:45,360
these cases and things that have

2710
01:48:49,070 --> 01:48:46,800
happened in the past you've been

2711
01:48:51,410 --> 01:48:49,080
associated with it if there's any

2712
01:48:54,770 --> 01:48:51,420
non-disclosures associated with that you

2713
01:48:58,490 --> 01:48:54,780
need to provide copies of such orders

2714
01:49:00,890 --> 01:48:58,500
and agreements or obligations to Arrow

2715
01:49:03,050 --> 01:49:00,900
what are they saying they're saying

2716
01:49:04,729 --> 01:49:03,060
everybody out there in all of the

2717
01:49:06,410 --> 01:49:04,739
agencies involved in this cross-agency

2718
01:49:08,930 --> 01:49:06,420
group and elsewhere who have

2719
01:49:10,910 --> 01:49:08,940
non-disclosures relating to UAP type

2720
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:10,920
events

2721
01:49:17,090 --> 01:49:15,360
send them to us send them a copy of all

2722
01:49:19,790 --> 01:49:17,100
of them to us

2723
01:49:21,950 --> 01:49:19,800
my god do you realize what information

2724
01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:21,960
is in those so the arrow is going to be

2725
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,000
collected now still not for release to

2726
01:49:27,950 --> 01:49:26,159
the public non-disclosure agreements

2727
01:49:29,330 --> 01:49:27,960
describing why there's a non-disclosure

2728
01:49:31,609 --> 01:49:29,340
agreement what is the issue is not being

2729
01:49:34,250 --> 01:49:31,619
disclosed and who is signed on to it

2730
01:49:36,410 --> 01:49:34,260
it's like a road map to the entire

2731
01:49:38,450 --> 01:49:36,420
history of the internal investigations

2732
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:38,460
send them on does it mean they will or

2733
01:49:41,930 --> 01:49:39,600
not don't know if they don't they're

2734
01:49:43,129 --> 01:49:41,940
going to have a problem but then it goes

2735
01:49:45,970 --> 01:49:43,139
further

2736
01:49:49,010 --> 01:49:45,980
it says the head of the office shall

2737
01:49:51,229 --> 01:49:49,020
accessible to I'm sorry

2738
01:49:53,450 --> 01:49:51,239
I'm sorry the head of the office meaning

2739
01:49:55,550 --> 01:49:53,460
Arrow shall make

2740
01:49:58,609 --> 01:49:55,560
the records compiled under this

2741
01:50:01,129 --> 01:49:58,619
subparagraph A Accessible to the

2742
01:50:02,629 --> 01:50:01,139
Congressional defense committees the

2743
01:50:05,149 --> 01:50:02,639
Congressional intelligence committees

2744
01:50:06,890 --> 01:50:05,159
and the Congressional leadership which

2745
01:50:08,510 --> 01:50:06,900
means leadership that may not even be in

2746
01:50:10,729 --> 01:50:08,520
those committees

2747
01:50:12,169 --> 01:50:10,739
the legislation says that all these

2748
01:50:13,609 --> 01:50:12,179
non-disclosure agreements which are not

2749
01:50:15,050 --> 01:50:13,619
going to be made public are going to

2750
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:15,060
come to us and we're going to send them

2751
01:50:18,169 --> 01:50:17,040
to the members of Congress who will then

2752
01:50:20,450 --> 01:50:18,179
find out

2753
01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:20,460
all these things that were a quote not

2754
01:50:24,410 --> 01:50:22,560
to be disclosed the issue involved and

2755
01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:24,420
the people that were signed on do you

2756
01:50:28,910 --> 01:50:27,119
have any idea assume you know without

2757
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:28,920
getting into any leaks or anything like

2758
01:50:34,490 --> 01:50:32,159
that what that information will do to

2759
01:50:37,669 --> 01:50:34,500
all of these key committee members it

2760
01:50:40,250 --> 01:50:37,679
will set their hair on fire this is for

2761
01:50:43,129 --> 01:50:40,260
them the ultimate reveal in a sense

2762
01:50:46,010 --> 01:50:43,139
without getting into actual programs

2763
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:46,020
it's in the legislation it's by law a

2764
01:50:48,530 --> 01:50:47,040
lot of people don't even know that's

2765
01:50:49,729 --> 01:50:48,540
there so there's that now there's

2766
01:50:52,010 --> 01:50:49,739
something else then this is like

2767
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:52,020
something I really love okay

2768
01:50:56,990 --> 01:50:54,960
this is really cool on two levels 10

2769
01:50:59,149 --> 01:50:57,000
minutes I can pull this off this is

2770
01:51:01,729 --> 01:50:59,159
under protection for individuals making

2771
01:51:04,189 --> 01:51:01,739
authorized disclosures

2772
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:04,199
now let me make something clear

2773
01:51:08,450 --> 01:51:06,719
all of these reports are and these

2774
01:51:10,729 --> 01:51:08,460
disclosures are talking about are

2775
01:51:13,609 --> 01:51:10,739
authorized in other words they actually

2776
01:51:15,950 --> 01:51:13,619
follow certain rules if they if if it's

2777
01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:15,960
under an NDA it is not an authorized

2778
01:51:19,790 --> 01:51:18,239
disclosure right if it violates National

2779
01:51:21,649 --> 01:51:19,800
Security it's not an authorized

2780
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:21,659
disclosure so when they talk about

2781
01:51:25,070 --> 01:51:23,280
disclosures that are coming in from the

2782
01:51:26,750 --> 01:51:25,080
witnesses they're talking about those

2783
01:51:29,810 --> 01:51:26,760
that do not violate those rules which

2784
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:29,820
they specify but but nevertheless they

2785
01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:30,960
don't violate the rules but they're

2786
01:51:35,390 --> 01:51:31,920
still important and they're being

2787
01:51:37,250 --> 01:51:35,400
brought forward okay so people that are

2788
01:51:39,410 --> 01:51:37,260
bringing forward appropriate disclosures

2789
01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:39,420
about this issue sightings whatever the

2790
01:51:42,830 --> 01:51:41,280
hell that don't violate the the

2791
01:51:45,890 --> 01:51:42,840
conditions that we have described in

2792
01:51:47,629 --> 01:51:45,900
earlier in the in the law

2793
01:51:51,290 --> 01:51:47,639
all right

2794
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:51,300
shall not be subject to a non-design I'm

2795
01:51:54,830 --> 01:51:53,280
sorry all right I'm sorry protection for

2796
01:51:57,470 --> 01:51:54,840
individuals making authorized uh

2797
01:51:59,510 --> 01:51:57,480
disclosures authorized disclosures and

2798
01:52:01,550 --> 01:51:59,520
authorized disclosure

2799
01:52:03,649 --> 01:52:01,560
entered into by an individual who makes

2800
01:52:05,570 --> 01:52:03,659
the disclosure shall be deemed to comply

2801
01:52:08,030 --> 01:52:05,580
with any regulations or order issued

2802
01:52:09,169 --> 01:52:08,040
under Authority executive order 1326 and

2803
01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:09,179
so forth that's what I was trying to

2804
01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:10,800
tell you he can't violate those rules

2805
01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:12,480
okay

2806
01:52:18,530 --> 01:52:15,119
is but if it doesn't and it is not a

2807
01:52:20,570 --> 01:52:18,540
violation okay all right then it is

2808
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:20,580
going to be received and now comes the

2809
01:52:26,570 --> 01:52:24,000
key part prohibition on reprisals

2810
01:52:28,010 --> 01:52:26,580
an employee or a department or agency of

2811
01:52:30,109 --> 01:52:28,020
the federal government or of a

2812
01:52:31,550 --> 01:52:30,119
contractor subcontractor grantee

2813
01:52:34,010 --> 01:52:31,560
subgrantee or personal services

2814
01:52:36,530 --> 01:52:34,020
contractor of such a department or

2815
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:36,540
agency who has authority to take direct

2816
01:52:41,570 --> 01:52:38,880
others to take recommend or approve any

2817
01:52:43,490 --> 01:52:41,580
Personnel action shall not with respect

2818
01:52:46,129 --> 01:52:43,500
to such Authority take or fail to take

2819
01:52:48,649 --> 01:52:46,139
or threaten to take or fail to take a

2820
01:52:50,090 --> 01:52:48,659
personal Personnel action including the

2821
01:52:52,430 --> 01:52:50,100
revocation of suspension of security

2822
01:52:55,070 --> 01:52:52,440
clearances or termination of employment

2823
01:52:57,649 --> 01:52:55,080
with respect to any individual as a

2824
01:53:01,129 --> 01:52:57,659
reprisal for any authorized disclosure

2825
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:01,139
what this says by law is that if there

2826
01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:03,119
is an authorized Disclosure by anybody

2827
01:53:08,030 --> 01:53:06,000
within the the system here and you take

2828
01:53:10,729 --> 01:53:08,040
a reprisal that is against the law that

2829
01:53:13,970 --> 01:53:10,739
is against this act you can't do that

2830
01:53:16,189 --> 01:53:13,980
anymore they're basically taking the the

2831
01:53:18,770 --> 01:53:16,199
ability for people to keep those subtle

2832
01:53:21,050 --> 01:53:18,780
pressures on away that doesn't mean they

2833
01:53:23,750 --> 01:53:21,060
won't try but they're taking it away now

2834
01:53:26,510 --> 01:53:23,760
here's what's really cool about this

2835
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:26,520
in the Senate version of the ACT which

2836
01:53:31,070 --> 01:53:29,040
was which was sponsored by Warner he

2837
01:53:33,169 --> 01:53:31,080
didn't write it all but his P he had

2838
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:33,179
staff to do it but sure he signed off on

2839
01:53:36,649 --> 01:53:35,280
everything so we're talking Mark Warner

2840
01:53:37,970 --> 01:53:36,659
the current chairman of the Intel

2841
01:53:40,910 --> 01:53:37,980
committee

2842
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:40,920
he put this additional language in the

2843
01:53:44,870 --> 01:53:42,960
Senate version of the ACT which did not

2844
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:44,880
make it through reconciliation

2845
01:53:52,129 --> 01:53:48,480
but note what he was willing to see in

2846
01:53:56,930 --> 01:53:54,830
any case in which an employee described

2847
01:53:59,629 --> 01:53:56,940
in paragraph two the one I just read to

2848
01:54:01,010 --> 01:53:59,639
you takes a Personnel action against an

2849
01:54:02,030 --> 01:54:01,020
individual in violation of such

2850
01:54:04,490 --> 01:54:02,040
paragraph

2851
01:54:06,169 --> 01:54:04,500
the individual could be a pilot could be

2852
01:54:09,229 --> 01:54:06,179
a Navy person could be a member of the

2853
01:54:10,609 --> 01:54:09,239
DI whatever the hell may bring a private

2854
01:54:12,830 --> 01:54:10,619
civil action

2855
01:54:14,810 --> 01:54:12,840
for all appropriate remedies including

2856
01:54:16,669 --> 01:54:14,820
injunctive relief and compensatory and

2857
01:54:18,830 --> 01:54:16,679
punitive damages

2858
01:54:22,189 --> 01:54:18,840
against the government

2859
01:54:25,790 --> 01:54:22,199
and the other employer is that where the

2860
01:54:27,470 --> 01:54:25,800
300 000 number gets extended is is it in

2861
01:54:29,149 --> 01:54:27,480
that section no it's not in the section

2862
01:54:31,609 --> 01:54:29,159
this is that one paragraph is in the

2863
01:54:33,530 --> 01:54:31,619
Senate bill or other employer who took

2864
01:54:35,810 --> 01:54:33,540
the Personnel action in a federal

2865
01:54:38,990 --> 01:54:35,820
district court of competent jurisdiction

2866
01:54:40,850 --> 01:54:39,000
Warner was willing to put into the final

2867
01:54:43,129 --> 01:54:40,860
signed Bill the right of government

2868
01:54:45,770 --> 01:54:43,139
employees to sue the government and

2869
01:54:51,070 --> 01:54:45,780
their boss if they screw with them on an

2870
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:53,750
it is incredible I'm saying that later

2871
01:55:00,350 --> 01:54:57,360
on in the NDA uh specifically addressing

2872
01:55:03,169 --> 01:55:00,360
that that the cap for a whistleblower to

2873
01:55:05,450 --> 01:55:03,179
Sue or compensation was three hundred

2874
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:05,460
thousand dollars and so if that was

2875
01:55:09,290 --> 01:55:07,440
there it was probably taken out too no

2876
01:55:11,689 --> 01:55:09,300
because I didn't see it is it the final

2877
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:11,699
bill it's in there and that it can

2878
01:55:16,189 --> 01:55:14,000
exceed that number now

2879
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:16,199
I'm going to look into that because

2880
01:55:23,870 --> 01:55:19,920
technically if they didn't Steve Steve

2881
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:23,880
who does this apply to I the simple

2882
01:55:31,310 --> 01:55:27,360
thing would be uh pilots and enlisted

2883
01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:31,320
anybody anybody reporting within the uh

2884
01:55:37,070 --> 01:55:34,560
an authorized disclosure within the the

2885
01:55:38,450 --> 01:55:37,080
investigations that arrow is doing it's

2886
01:55:40,729 --> 01:55:38,460
not referring to people that are going

2887
01:55:42,410 --> 01:55:40,739
to move on with a problem it's referring

2888
01:55:45,350 --> 01:55:42,420
to people in government in other words

2889
01:55:47,090 --> 01:55:45,360
the whole focus of this project is to

2890
01:55:49,250 --> 01:55:47,100
make it easier for witnesses to come

2891
01:55:51,530 --> 01:55:49,260
forward so they have as many witnesses

2892
01:55:52,850 --> 01:55:51,540
available to them for the hearings

2893
01:55:54,649 --> 01:55:52,860
because you can't have a powerful

2894
01:55:55,790 --> 01:55:54,659
witness if you don't know they exist and

2895
01:55:57,709 --> 01:55:55,800
you don't really think this they don't

2896
01:55:59,689 --> 01:55:57,719
come forward yeah yeah but that's not my

2897
01:56:02,629 --> 01:55:59,699
question so you can't answer the

2898
01:56:04,370 --> 01:56:02,639
question of if I can't ask so let's try

2899
01:56:06,890 --> 01:56:04,380
this again

2900
01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:06,900
um uh military I understand government I

2901
01:56:11,870 --> 01:56:08,639
understand but what about the private

2902
01:56:14,030 --> 01:56:11,880
sector what about Lockheed what about is

2903
01:56:16,510 --> 01:56:14,040
you know something that is going on a

2904
01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:16,520
private security subcontractor that is

2905
01:56:24,350 --> 01:56:21,119
uh uh securing uh Area 51 that has

2906
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:24,360
witnessed easy answers yeah look on it

2907
01:56:27,709 --> 01:56:26,400
says it right in there this bill is

2908
01:56:30,470 --> 01:56:27,719
covering

2909
01:56:32,510 --> 01:56:30,480
contractors defense contractors all

2910
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:32,520
right it is it does it's not covering

2911
01:56:36,229 --> 01:56:34,320
any contractor you'd be making I don't

2912
01:56:39,649 --> 01:56:36,239
know uh footstools the point is is that

2913
01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:39,659
if if you are a defense contractor and a

2914
01:56:43,970 --> 01:56:42,239
UAP thing is is involved in your world

2915
01:56:46,370 --> 01:56:43,980
and somebody does an authorized

2916
01:56:48,970 --> 01:56:46,380
disclosure about it right they're

2917
01:56:51,290 --> 01:56:48,980
covered I mean civilian people now again

2918
01:56:53,570 --> 01:56:51,300
you know how hard it is you know how

2919
01:56:55,910 --> 01:56:53,580
hard how much effort the government goes

2920
01:56:57,709 --> 01:56:55,920
to to prevent people from suing it

2921
01:56:59,090 --> 01:56:57,719
I mean it's very hard they go to all

2922
01:57:01,729 --> 01:56:59,100
kinds they all pass all kinds of laws

2923
01:57:04,189 --> 01:57:01,739
you can't sue the government Warner was

2924
01:57:05,689 --> 01:57:04,199
willing to put in the bill that in this

2925
01:57:07,490 --> 01:57:05,699
particular case you consume now I'm

2926
01:57:09,830 --> 01:57:07,500
going to look about this 300 000 maybe

2927
01:57:11,209 --> 01:57:09,840
the language somewhat relevant to this

2928
01:57:13,669 --> 01:57:11,219
is turned up elsewhere in the bill it's

2929
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:13,679
very large if I find it I'll I'll get

2930
01:57:19,970 --> 01:57:17,040
you an email on that but again this is a

2931
01:57:22,430 --> 01:57:19,980
small thing but remember that head of

2932
01:57:24,350 --> 01:57:22,440
the Intel Senate Intel committee was

2933
01:57:26,330 --> 01:57:24,360
putting into the bill he sponsored at

2934
01:57:28,609 --> 01:57:26,340
the Senate level the right to sue people

2935
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:28,619
that screw with you remember how it used

2936
01:57:32,030 --> 01:57:30,960
to be uh yeah you shouldn't have you

2937
01:57:33,770 --> 01:57:32,040
shouldn't have talked about that

2938
01:57:35,750 --> 01:57:33,780
sighting Airman uh you're never flying

2939
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:35,760
again we're putting you on a desk right

2940
01:57:40,370 --> 01:57:38,880
you know near the Bering Sea okay and by

2941
01:57:42,589 --> 01:57:40,380
the way your wife is divorcing you

2942
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:42,599
that's the way it used to be now this is

2943
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:44,880
the way it is yeah yeah yeah is that

2944
01:57:54,550 --> 01:57:48,560
cool or what yeah it's amazing and uh

2945
01:57:59,390 --> 01:57:54,560
it's when you see I I brought up earlier

2946
01:58:01,669 --> 01:57:59,400
the report that is now required by law

2947
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:01,679
for the odni and the dod to go back to

2948
01:58:09,350 --> 01:58:06,000
January 1st 1945 and investigate all of

2949
01:58:12,310 --> 01:58:09,360
the military reports about UFOs well

2950
01:58:15,589 --> 01:58:12,320
that is by law

2951
01:58:18,050 --> 01:58:15,599
the classified report is also by law yes

2952
01:58:20,209 --> 01:58:18,060
okay and they're getting all of that but

2953
01:58:22,250 --> 01:58:20,219
as cool as those classified reports may

2954
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:22,260
be and we hear they're pretty cool right

2955
01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:23,760
because because what's happening is

2956
01:58:26,570 --> 01:58:24,960
other members of Congress are learning

2957
01:58:28,790 --> 01:58:26,580
about it you know the cocktail table and

2958
01:58:31,550 --> 01:58:28,800
they're starting to talk about it

2959
01:58:34,609 --> 01:58:31,560
the non-disclosure agreement paragraph

2960
01:58:36,709 --> 01:58:34,619
is mind-blowing I mean technically there

2961
01:58:38,330 --> 01:58:36,719
should have been a Revolt right in the

2962
01:58:39,950 --> 01:58:38,340
military intelligence complex where they

2963
01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:39,960
were pick you know picketing you know

2964
01:58:44,050 --> 01:58:42,000
the Pentagon saying no no we cannot

2965
01:58:47,330 --> 01:58:44,060
possibly do that

2966
01:58:49,609 --> 01:58:47,340
regardless of how many NDA copies end up

2967
01:58:51,589 --> 01:58:49,619
turning up an arrow or get passed on to

2968
01:58:54,109 --> 01:58:51,599
Congress there will be some

2969
01:58:56,689 --> 01:58:54,119
equally important is this sends a clear

2970
01:58:58,010 --> 01:58:56,699
message to everybody out there that

2971
01:59:00,169 --> 01:58:58,020
thinks that they're going to be able to

2972
01:59:02,149 --> 01:59:00,179
get by with this and that will with the

2973
01:59:06,830 --> 01:59:02,159
the the the truth embargo will continue

2974
01:59:11,330 --> 01:59:06,840
on we'll skate like we did in in 52 47

2975
01:59:14,810 --> 01:59:11,340
uh also 90 96 95 they're clean no it's

2976
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:14,820
over right it's over get on board let's

2977
01:59:19,790 --> 01:59:18,000
move on with this so my prediction right

2978
01:59:21,709 --> 01:59:19,800
now I feel really confident about this

2979
01:59:23,810 --> 01:59:21,719
and I'm glad that the project I'm

2980
01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:23,820
involved is so huge because you know I

2981
01:59:27,229 --> 01:59:25,199
think we're going to materially be able

2982
01:59:28,850 --> 01:59:27,239
to affect this right in in very

2983
01:59:33,229 --> 01:59:28,860
important ways

2984
01:59:35,570 --> 01:59:33,239
if I am uh Mark Warner man

2985
01:59:38,270 --> 01:59:35,580
I have a hearing this January

2986
01:59:40,070 --> 01:59:38,280
I get these witnessed it start the

2987
01:59:43,070 --> 01:59:40,080
process and we're holding a witness on

2988
01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:43,080
this incredibly significant issue the

2989
01:59:46,970 --> 01:59:44,639
the attention of the public will be

2990
01:59:49,010 --> 01:59:46,980
galvanized now I'm going to go partisan

2991
01:59:52,129 --> 01:59:49,020
for a second but it's I'm simply stating

2992
01:59:53,689 --> 01:59:52,139
you know reality here don't don't torch

2993
01:59:56,209 --> 01:59:53,699
me

2994
01:59:59,390 --> 01:59:56,219
Warner has a chance to put that going on

2995
02:00:01,669 --> 01:59:59,400
in the Senate at the same time and in

2996
02:00:04,609 --> 02:00:01,679
the Democrat consultant at the same time

2997
02:00:06,109 --> 02:00:04,619
the Republican house is going nuts all

2998
02:00:08,570 --> 02:00:06,119
right and you have this profound

2999
02:00:10,669 --> 02:00:08,580
comparison from a purely partisan

3000
02:00:13,250 --> 02:00:10,679
political basis they gotta hold those

3001
02:00:14,629 --> 02:00:13,260
hearings now I'm not I'm not getting I'm

3002
02:00:16,370 --> 02:00:14,639
not going Democrat Republican here I'm

3003
02:00:18,109 --> 02:00:16,380
simply saying that is the reality right

3004
02:00:20,930 --> 02:00:18,119
now they have a chance to start the

3005
02:00:22,790 --> 02:00:20,940
hearings in a democrat-controlled senate

3006
02:00:25,189 --> 02:00:22,800
the process is underway everything is

3007
02:00:27,589 --> 02:00:25,199
half set up and it just happens to be a

3008
02:00:29,750 --> 02:00:27,599
stark contrast to the house

3009
02:00:30,890 --> 02:00:29,760
is that going to play a factor and even

3010
02:00:33,350 --> 02:00:30,900
if it did they're not going to admit it

3011
02:00:35,209 --> 02:00:33,360
but I'm saying this you know when Bob

3012
02:00:37,070 --> 02:00:35,219
Salas is being interviewed by Arrow you

3013
02:00:38,390 --> 02:00:37,080
need to start planning your your trips

3014
02:00:39,530 --> 02:00:38,400
to Washington okay because those

3015
02:00:41,209 --> 02:00:39,540
hearings will be open to the public

3016
02:00:43,490 --> 02:00:41,219
you're going to have to get in line very

3017
02:00:44,810 --> 02:00:43,500
very early I'm going to pay somebody to

3018
02:00:46,490 --> 02:00:44,820
get in line for me it's one of those

3019
02:00:48,410 --> 02:00:46,500
line sitters yeah I'm going to do that

3020
02:00:50,930 --> 02:00:48,420
and then I'm going to try to get in the

3021
02:00:53,149 --> 02:00:50,940
front I want to be in the front row when

3022
02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:53,159
Bob Salas sits down so when you focus on

3023
02:00:57,129 --> 02:00:55,440
Bob you're going to be saying is that

3024
02:00:59,750 --> 02:00:57,139
Basset behind in there

3025
02:01:01,669 --> 02:00:59,760
right right right

3026
02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:01,679
um Before I Let You Go Steve

3027
02:01:08,030 --> 02:01:04,800
um I saw some chatter today on social

3028
02:01:10,430 --> 02:01:08,040
media that involved you

3029
02:01:14,450 --> 02:01:10,440
um clarification here

3030
02:01:16,850 --> 02:01:14,460
um that there is a Steven Spielberg UFO

3031
02:01:19,250 --> 02:01:16,860
documentary series that is getting ready

3032
02:01:21,830 --> 02:01:19,260
to come out and that you you had

3033
02:01:23,330 --> 02:01:21,840
something to do with it no I I not

3034
02:01:25,970 --> 02:01:23,340
something to do with it I found out

3035
02:01:28,010 --> 02:01:25,980
about it and I put it out oh let me tell

3036
02:01:30,350 --> 02:01:28,020
you I've been I've been in Hollywood now

3037
02:01:31,750 --> 02:01:30,360
for almost a year

3038
02:01:36,050 --> 02:01:31,760
and

3039
02:01:41,270 --> 02:01:38,930
this town is crawling with UAP projects

3040
02:01:42,950 --> 02:01:41,280
okay in various levels yeah they are

3041
02:01:45,310 --> 02:01:42,960
yeah most of them are not being talked

3042
02:01:48,589 --> 02:01:45,320
about right okay for a lot of reasons

3043
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:48,599
but I I can say

3044
02:01:52,129 --> 02:01:50,159
that

3045
02:01:53,570 --> 02:01:52,139
I played a small part and bring this

3046
02:01:56,209 --> 02:01:53,580
about

3047
02:01:58,189 --> 02:01:56,219
the film industry that is made well in

3048
02:01:59,930 --> 02:01:58,199
excess of a hundred billion dollars way

3049
02:02:02,510 --> 02:01:59,940
above 100 billion dollars on fictional

3050
02:02:05,270 --> 02:02:02,520
movies about ETS it's finally realized

3051
02:02:07,669 --> 02:02:05,280
that there may be even greater glory by

3052
02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:07,679
taking those resources and putting it on

3053
02:02:12,410 --> 02:02:10,080
the real deal and they're seeing

3054
02:02:13,729 --> 02:02:12,420
eyeballs by the millions and they're

3055
02:02:15,589 --> 02:02:13,739
jumping in let me tell you they're in

3056
02:02:16,970 --> 02:02:15,599
there to make money but there's plenty

3057
02:02:18,589 --> 02:02:16,980
of people in this town that know that

3058
02:02:20,510 --> 02:02:18,599
the truth embargo should end they want

3059
02:02:23,510 --> 02:02:20,520
to do the right thing and so you're

3060
02:02:26,270 --> 02:02:23,520
about to see Hollywood rise up and say

3061
02:02:28,430 --> 02:02:26,280
government like what you're doing but

3062
02:02:30,890 --> 02:02:28,440
we're not gonna let you skirt on this

3063
02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:30,900
right we've got documentary streaming

3064
02:02:34,550 --> 02:02:32,400
series we got so much stuff in the works

3065
02:02:36,109 --> 02:02:34,560
you wouldn't believe it and one of the

3066
02:02:37,970 --> 02:02:36,119
things I'm going to be hope hoping to

3067
02:02:40,010 --> 02:02:37,980
help is make sure that a lot of this

3068
02:02:43,790 --> 02:02:40,020
content covers those other people we're

3069
02:02:46,189 --> 02:02:43,800
talking about McDonald Keo right uh

3070
02:02:48,109 --> 02:02:46,199
heinek you name it all of these people

3071
02:02:49,490 --> 02:02:48,119
who were the the founders and the people

3072
02:02:52,430 --> 02:02:49,500
that carry the water for all these years

3073
02:02:54,290 --> 02:02:52,440
hey massive stories here so let's get

3074
02:02:56,330 --> 02:02:54,300
them up on the big screen let's get the

3075
02:02:58,910 --> 02:02:56,340
narrative films let's do docs let's

3076
02:03:00,290 --> 02:02:58,920
because most of the world is for that

3077
02:03:02,450 --> 02:03:00,300
doesn't know that history most of the

3078
02:03:04,729 --> 02:03:02,460
people on this planet are under 30 right

3079
02:03:07,430 --> 02:03:04,739
they need to find out about the people

3080
02:03:09,530 --> 02:03:07,440
that that started to try to tell the

3081
02:03:12,290 --> 02:03:09,540
truth to the American people starting on

3082
02:03:14,089 --> 02:03:12,300
day one Jesse Marcel they need to know

3083
02:03:16,729 --> 02:03:14,099
about all of them because this isn't

3084
02:03:19,490 --> 02:03:16,739
just history this is the biggest history

3085
02:03:21,109 --> 02:03:19,500
you will ever live in if you're if

3086
02:03:22,570 --> 02:03:21,119
you're reincarnated another hundred

3087
02:03:26,030 --> 02:03:22,580
times

3088
02:03:28,129 --> 02:03:26,040
you're right about that you know uh uh

3089
02:03:30,770 --> 02:03:28,139
certainly James you know McDonald and

3090
02:03:33,950 --> 02:03:30,780
and and the Leonard Stringfield you know

3091
02:03:37,609 --> 02:03:33,960
on and on yeah it's it's just great

3092
02:03:38,750 --> 02:03:37,619
repel I mean yeah yeah all these people

3093
02:03:40,729 --> 02:03:38,760
are heroes they should all get the

3094
02:03:42,169 --> 02:03:40,739
freaking medal of freedom well you know

3095
02:03:43,850 --> 02:03:42,179
there was a time when they just

3096
02:03:46,070 --> 02:03:43,860
disappear into history like the early

3097
02:03:48,830 --> 02:03:46,080
black civil rights people in the 1800s

3098
02:03:51,229 --> 02:03:48,840
but this isn't then this is the age of

3099
02:03:53,990 --> 02:03:51,239
the internet social media and mass

3100
02:03:56,390 --> 02:03:54,000
participation it's the age of people 14

3101
02:03:59,089 --> 02:03:56,400
year old kids with 13 uh you know a

3102
02:04:00,649 --> 02:03:59,099
level 13 iPhones doing high level films

3103
02:04:03,410 --> 02:04:00,659
in their basement whatever the hell

3104
02:04:06,410 --> 02:04:03,420
there is no way that all of that history

3105
02:04:08,750 --> 02:04:06,420
is somehow just gonna disappear it's

3106
02:04:11,290 --> 02:04:08,760
it's going to be covered and I can tell

3107
02:04:14,570 --> 02:04:11,300
you this town is on board and happening

3108
02:04:15,890 --> 02:04:14,580
and you know we're we're one of the one

3109
02:04:18,229 --> 02:04:15,900
of the reasons that we're very happy

3110
02:04:20,330 --> 02:04:18,239
what's happening now is that we're we're

3111
02:04:21,470 --> 02:04:20,340
watching the competition we're watching

3112
02:04:23,510 --> 02:04:21,480
all this stuff developing and we're

3113
02:04:24,589 --> 02:04:23,520
gonna get run over I mean it's going to

3114
02:04:26,570 --> 02:04:24,599
be the it's going to be like the

3115
02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:26,580
Oklahoma Land Rush with the Thousand

3116
02:04:29,629 --> 02:04:28,800
conestogas racing forward to get a piece

3117
02:04:32,330 --> 02:04:29,639
of land

3118
02:04:33,290 --> 02:04:32,340
this town has figured it out and by the

3119
02:04:34,910 --> 02:04:33,300
way

3120
02:04:36,290 --> 02:04:34,920
the big they're big shots in this town

3121
02:04:38,450 --> 02:04:36,300
that have known ET presidents was real

3122
02:04:40,609 --> 02:04:38,460
going back the last 60 years I assure

3123
02:04:42,109 --> 02:04:40,619
you they're connected they're wealthy

3124
02:04:44,089 --> 02:04:42,119
they're brilliant you don't think

3125
02:04:45,770 --> 02:04:44,099
they're going to tipped off they made a

3126
02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:45,780
conscious decision

3127
02:04:50,450 --> 02:04:47,280
we're going to do the fiction on this

3128
02:04:52,550 --> 02:04:50,460
people love it we understand why we're

3129
02:04:54,290 --> 02:04:52,560
not gonna poke the bear We're not gonna

3130
02:04:55,850 --> 02:04:54,300
go there but we're going to put out the

3131
02:04:57,709 --> 02:04:55,860
fiction I'm not going to argue with that

3132
02:04:59,450 --> 02:04:57,719
they made a decision it wasn't their

3133
02:05:01,850 --> 02:04:59,460
best interest maybe it wasn't that's

3134
02:05:03,169 --> 02:05:01,860
changing you know so now all of a sudden

3135
02:05:07,189 --> 02:05:03,179
hey

3136
02:05:08,930 --> 02:05:07,199
and and and one of the key look

3137
02:05:10,609 --> 02:05:08,940
one of the reasons that I ended up in

3138
02:05:12,709 --> 02:05:10,619
this is because of a development over a

3139
02:05:15,649 --> 02:05:12,719
Bad Robot right which is not connected

3140
02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:15,659
to project but yeah uh uh one of the

3141
02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:18,000
biggest players in this town JJ Abrams

3142
02:05:22,490 --> 02:05:20,400
takes on a Reclamation project puts a

3143
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:22,500
couple million into it puts out UFO on

3144
02:05:26,510 --> 02:05:24,960
Showtime now a lot of people say so what

3145
02:05:29,030 --> 02:05:26,520
what

3146
02:05:32,209 --> 02:05:29,040
when somebody at that level puts money

3147
02:05:33,950 --> 02:05:32,219
behind a docu-series on the UAP issue

3148
02:05:35,510 --> 02:05:33,960
right on a studio that's one of the

3149
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:35,520
biggest in town

3150
02:05:39,229 --> 02:05:37,199
you know how many people got that

3151
02:05:40,609 --> 02:05:39,239
message around this town and so yeah the

3152
02:05:42,649 --> 02:05:40,619
Spielberg is just one of many many

3153
02:05:44,629 --> 02:05:42,659
projects in the works uh they're going

3154
02:05:46,250 --> 02:05:44,639
to start pouring out uh pretty soon and

3155
02:05:49,010 --> 02:05:46,260
you're going to see some things from my

3156
02:05:51,890 --> 02:05:49,020
neck of the woods Steve thank you so

3157
02:05:54,530 --> 02:05:51,900
much my friend an absolute amazing uh

3158
02:05:56,629 --> 02:05:54,540
conversation uh I want to bring you back

3159
02:05:58,609 --> 02:05:56,639
uh we've got an announcement that we're

3160
02:06:00,709 --> 02:05:58,619
going to do uh in about three weeks

3161
02:06:02,770 --> 02:06:00,719
we'll do it right here on Fade to Black

3162
02:06:06,410 --> 02:06:02,780
and I'm happy to be a part of it okay

3163
02:06:09,169 --> 02:06:06,420
fantastic and look uh I might my uh my

3164
02:06:11,450 --> 02:06:09,179
messaging is always on you you can send

3165
02:06:12,830 --> 02:06:11,460
the dinner invitation Via SMS that's

3166
02:06:16,310 --> 02:06:12,840
fine

3167
02:06:18,290 --> 02:06:16,320
later see you later Steve Steve Bassett

3168
02:06:21,649 --> 02:06:18,300
thank you so much my friend uh the

3169
02:06:25,129 --> 02:06:21,659
absolute very best and uh with that

3170
02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:25,139
tomorrow night I am going to oh so uh

3171
02:06:29,629 --> 02:06:27,599
Paradigm research group all of uh

3172
02:06:32,450 --> 02:06:29,639
Steven's links and of course uh Twitter

3173
02:06:34,669 --> 02:06:32,460
uh we've got everything up and out there

3174
02:06:37,070 --> 02:06:34,679
and you can do it over on our website or

3175
02:06:39,589 --> 02:06:37,080
throughout our social media go follow

3176
02:06:41,810 --> 02:06:39,599
Steve it's uh uh prg uh Paradigm

3177
02:06:44,330 --> 02:06:41,820
research group on Twitter easy to find

3178
02:06:47,209 --> 02:06:44,340
we've got it up there all right and so

3179
02:06:51,770 --> 02:06:47,219
with that tomorrow night here on Fade to

3180
02:06:54,530 --> 02:06:51,780
Black I've got astrologer David Palmer

3181
02:06:57,290 --> 02:06:54,540
with us the Leo King and it's a very

3182
02:07:00,770 --> 02:06:57,300
important show why because right now

3183
02:07:03,649 --> 02:07:00,780
we've got a green comment that is

3184
02:07:06,169 --> 02:07:03,659
approaching Earth it has just rounded

3185
02:07:08,689 --> 02:07:06,179
the sun it's going to be visible for the

3186
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:08,699
rest of the month naked eye right here

3187
02:07:13,490 --> 02:07:11,119
from planet Earth so what implications

3188
02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:13,500
is this going to have

3189
02:07:18,589 --> 02:07:15,119
right we're going to do all of that

3190
02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:18,599
tomorrow night with David Palmer the Leo

3191
02:07:23,570 --> 02:07:20,880
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3192
02:07:26,450 --> 02:07:23,580
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3193
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02:07:39,950 --> 02:07:36,000
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02:07:44,450 --> 02:07:42,420
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3201
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02:07:49,250 --> 02:07:47,940
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3204
02:07:54,830 --> 02:07:51,060
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3205
02:07:57,229 --> 02:07:54,840
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3206
02:08:01,480 --> 02:07:57,239
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3207
02:08:43,149 --> 02:08:11,350
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3208
02:08:43,159 --> 02:08:50,250
thank you